Interviews
Dillinger + One – Fan fills in for singer
Dillinger + One
The day the singer for Dillinger Escape Plan was replaced by a local fan…
By Josh Drespling
This past weekend the infamous GWAR B-Q was held just outside Richmond Virginia. The event played host to such bands as Lamb of God, August Burns Red, EYEHAEGOD (fronted by Phil Anselmo) among some other amazing acts. During the afternoon, as the sun beat down on the hordes of fans, Dillinger Escape Plan took the stage. The band that is typically an explosion of energy and might seemed to be limping along. After the initial excitement had waned, we came to the realization that Greg Puciato, vocalist for Dillinger Escape Plan was missing. Was this some type of gag? Was the band keeping with their style on unpredictability and holding off on bringing Greg to the stage? They chunked along for a another song or two with Brain Tentacles’ saxophonist Bruce Lamont, improvising some of the vocal melodies before announcing that Greg was stuck in L.A. due to flight problems. They said they were gonna play anyway and that everyone should have fun regardless. They made their way through several more songs of a set that was frankly leaving me disappointed, until everything took and immediate turn and bolstered the energy level. Dylan Lawson, a local fan of the band climbed the barricade and proceeded to take the place of the missing vocalist. He climbed onto the stage and grabbed the mic as friends, fans, and the band cheered him on.
Dylan helped the band plow through the rest of their set and bringing new life to what now will undouble be a legendary show in the history of Dillinger Escape plan. Empire Extreme caught up with Dylan and got him to give his account of the amazing experience.
Can you tell me a little about yourself?
Absolutely! My name is Dylan Lawson. I’m a 24-year old guy from Richmond, VA, I’ve lived here all my life, and I’m just a regular person who works a warehouse job. Live on my own and music has always been a MAJOR part of my life.
Was this your first year at GWAR B-Q?
Oh no! I’ve been to two others. I was at the second annual GWAR B-Q, even though I had to leave early because of work, and GWAR B-Q 2013, the year Pig Destroyer played and completely tarnished that pavilion that sits out at Hadad’s Lake. You know, funny thing, too, my dad has been friends with Ron Hadad for about 40 years. He even used to work there and I got to go there all the time as a kid because of that. Growing up, I would have never guessed when looking at that place that I would play a show at a Best Friend’s Day festival there, see a lot of my most favorite metal bands, and have some of the greatest concert experiences of my life. Ron is a great guy and anyone who knows him will tell you the same. It’s amazing how open he seems to be about holding shows there, especially one as massive as GWAR B-Q.
What were your thoughts when you realized that Greg was not there?
I seriously thought D.E.P. were messing with us at first and Greg was going to jump out of nowhere into the crowd without any warning whatsoever. I’m not gonna lie, my friends and I were all just waiting for that to happen. If you know anything about the band and how they, you probably know that they NEVER want the audience to be able to predict what they’re gonna do next. They try to make every show different, memorable, and maybe even a little crazier than the one the night before. It’s one of many things I absolutely adore about them. You never know what you’re going to get with Dillinger, and that’s what makes it so awesome every time, even if “it” is a concussion!
What made you want to jump on stage with D.E.P.?
When I realized Greg [Puciato] really wasn’t there and Ben [Weinman] confirmed it, I can’t say I was too hugely disappointed because Bruce Lamont’s (Brain Tentacles) improv on sax and their don’t-give-a-damn, don’t-need-no-singer attitude made it hard to not still appreciate them. However, I kept having images in my head of that one video from awhile back, where Deftones got a dude named Anthony Botting (his band is https://soundcloud.com/abfw so please go show that dude some love) to come up on stage and do “Passenger” live with Chino. I just remember seeing that and thinking “Holy Shit this guy is killing it despite how nervous he probably is. I can’t imagine doing something like that. No way!” Deftones are another one of my all-time favorite bands. They’re great, almost anyone I talk to who knows them agrees. Just phenomenal people who write some of the greatest and most inspirational music I’ve ever heard. The idea of standing next to Chino and singing his lyrics to him is something I couldn’t fathom the feeling of. I felt the same about this moment, too. Dillinger Escape Plan are a band I’ve loved since high school, after first hearing all of Miss Machine back in 11th grade I fell completely in love with it. I had also been a huge Faith No More, Tomahawk, and Mr. Bungle, so when I discovered their EP with Mike Patton, I absolutely loved that too. Everything about them inspired me. I wanted to do that, what they were doing, this REALLY heavy, but REALLY experimental, crazed music that gets you going and makes you feel completely invincible. There’s a very special, distinct vibe bands like them give off. It’s hard to describe with words but, it’s like an out-of-body experience, especially when you see them live. They do things to the listener, the audience that I can say will forever keep you coming back and respecting them, whether you’re a fan or not. There’s something in there for everyone. Even people who I know aren’t fans of anything remotely “metal” love Dillinger. That’s because they know what they’re doing and they do it perfectly.
I guess, to actually ANSWER this question, I should say that my whole intent of doing it was out of the desire to not only just go crazy, but really to recreate that hype you always see at a Dillinger show, and have one more unexpected thing happen to remind people of what DEP is all about. I wanted people who might have heard negative things about the festival or band to see this and say “Wow, I really want to see this band live” or “Wow, we really need to get our asses to GWAR B-Q next year! This is awesome!”
It wasn’t about me at all. I didn’t care what it meant for me. I was surprised I even had the balls to do it. I kept telling myself “No way, you aren’t gonna do this, you know there’s NO WAY this kind of thing could happen” in my head. Then, I realized I had a blank side of a ticket and a Sharpie. By the power of Dillinger Escape Plan and Party Smashers alike, I just said “Fuck it!” I wrote my little “LET ME DO A SONG PLEASE I KNOW THEM ALL” message on it.
I had been yelling to Kevin [Antreassian] to see if there was any chance of him seeing me and getting my gestures, but I think he just thought I was being a crazed fan yelling encouraging stuff at him when he saw me. The sign did the trick. Next thing I know, Liam [Wilson] is telling me to go up, along with Kevin, and I’m jumping the guard rail with the encouraging screams of two of my best friends, Steven Terry and Dakota Trimm, and two girls behind me. It was intense!
What were the security guards saying to you when you first tried to get up there?
I was stopped almost immediately. I’m pretty sure the guard was watching me and was kind of afraid of me doing something like that, jumping the rail and all. He just put his hand up to me and started ushering me off to the side saying “Go, man.”
I tried explaining to him that they were inviting me up on stage, but he just kept shaking his head and telling me I needed to move off to the side. I felt kind of down about it, but also tried telling him that I understood. I don’t hold any gripe against the guy. He was just doing his job. Honestly with crowds getting crazy and things like what happened to Randy Blythe back in 2010 and Christina Grimmie in June of this year, on top of all the other crazy stuff you hear about in the news, I totally get why security guards almost anywhere are a little more… tense, if you will. For all he knew, I could have been some drunken asshole trying to jump up on stage and steal something or do something outrageous. They aren’t hired to let stuff like that just fly and not intervene, obviously.
I was walking away saddened, but happy I at least tried, until I heard a bunch of yelling and turned around only to see Liam who apparently was pissed at that security guard (from what my friends told me and what can be seen in the video my buddy Dakota got). He was pointing at me and mouthing like “GET THE FUCK UP HERE, MAN! WHAT ARE YOU DOING!?” So I got really pumped, ran up, jumped up, and in case anyone was wondering, everything was, in fact, cool between me and the security guard. I think he felt kinda bad. Later he explained everything to me and I told him I understood and wasn’t offended. Good guys working at GWAR B-Q.
Did the security guy get his sunglasses back?
Oh yeah, definitely. I put them on my friend Steven because the whole time I was trying to make the most of it and entertain everybody, including the band. I went back up to the guard after everything was done to ask him if he got his shades back. He was already wearing them. He grinned and gave me a thumbs-up saying “Yeah man, we’re all good!” All of them said I did awesome and one even offered to be my “driver” if I ever got “big and famous” and rode a bus everywhere. They were funny. I’m glad that day got a little more exciting, in a good way, for them too! I can’t imagine working security at shows is anywhere near the easiest job in the world.
Can you describe your feelings about what some would call a chance of a lifetime?
I can only describe them but so much. I guess now I kinda know how Henry Rollins felt when Black Flag asked him to sing for them at that one show, only I’m sure he did waaaay better than I did. You know, everyone, all of my friends, my own manager from work, coworkers, family, band members (Bruce Lamont, Dave Witt, and Liam Wilson) were all talking with me after and told me they thought it was great. I also got to talk to Ben Weinman after. It was my second time meeting him, only this time was different, to say the least! Along with all the random people who actually stopped me and got pictures with me, they all said I did a great job and some said something along the lines that not many people could do what I did. I don’t see it like that, honestly. I think all I did was just give the crowd one more reason to love DEP, if they didn’t have enough already. Like I said before, as cheesy as it may sound, I really don’t want to make this about me at all. I’ve gotten a lot of notifications, friend requests, tags in posts and pictures, videos, recognition, crazy shit. I never thought an average Joe like me would ever get. It’s all really overwhelming and I am really humbled by all of it and can’t tell you how much I appreciate everyone’s kind words and just the band saying “Yeah, okay, you can pretend to be Greg for 10 minutes! Sure!” essentially. But I’m not concerned about what it means for me. Anybody could have done that. I saw a guy comment on one of the articles earlier today saying something like “That should have been me up there.” You know what? I love that. I agree. It should have and could have been him. I feel lucky. I could barely do anything on stage because I was shaking and so nervous and just overwhelmed. I probably fucked up so much. I was off-time, there were some lyrics I started forgetting, and I didn’t know what to do with myself at all. But you know what happened? Everyone in that audience practically were screaming right in my face and stealing the microphone from me screaming any parts they could from both “When I Lost My Bet” and “Sunshine The Werewolf.” The WHOLE crowd was the vocalist for Dillinger that day, fuck it. I didn’t do shit. I just got to be mic-boy and bring it to the true spirit of DEP’s music to join in. That’s what really counts. Everybody got to be a part of it that day. That’s exactly what Ben, Liam, Kevin, Billy, andEspecially Greg want above all things. They want you to know you’re just as much a part of what they do as they are. I hope Greg saw it and got a chuckle out of me acting like an idiot, but nonetheless I hope he just sees that even in the rare event he can’t make a show for whatever silly stuff he’s having to deal with elsewhere (honestly surprised we didn’t see Greg roll up on a bicycle halfway through like “Sorry I’m late, got a flat in Texas. LET’S DO THIS SHIT, GUYS!!!” as dedicated and wild as he is with his work). The spirit is STILL there in the crowd and there is no shortage of chaotic fun at any Dillinger show. The crowd is always on-point, and the band is always perfect. Everyone has a great time and walks away with something great. That’s what it’s all about. That’s what I can tell Dillinger all live for.
Can you tell us a little about your musical background and your band(s)?
Even if I’ve ever tried to get away from it (and trust me I have once or twice), it’s something I inevitably HAVE to ended up coming back to. It works as therapy for me just as much as I can bet it does for many other people. I’m always listening to something by someone, somewhere. It’s almost like an obsession, except it hasn’t done me wrong in all twenty-four years of my life, so that’s good I guess. I also record my own music with (almost) every project I’m in from home.
My history with RVA bands is pretty long and extensive. I have been involved in quite a few musical projects, all right here from Richmond, VA. I started getting into bands and playing with one called Strange Days, which later became known as In Defense Of Our Good Name, around 2007 to 2009. After we broke up my best friend Zach Neve who was the bassist of that band, joined togetherGarrett Lofland (drums) in this instrumental/metal/proggy/weird/we-wanna-be-rockstars-core band called The Goose.
The Goose lasted for a really long time. We went from having just the three of us, which we played a bunch of shows opening for bands like Psychostick . We went through member changes and ended up splitting up in 2011. Following that I was involved with a lot of different bands and was in 3 at one point. I was in an alternative rock project that was big around here and trying to make a return with good friends Santiago Prada (guitar/vocals) and Mikel Cruz (drums) and opened for another big and VERY awesome local band known as The J.O.B. (Jim O’Ferrell Band) and played some of the fanciest and highest paying shows ever with them. I’d never actually made much money for playing live before, so even $50 was a huge deal for me. You know how much gas that could get you?
Then there was Love Like Virtue, a local alternative rock/pop band I was in from 2011 up to 2014. It was made up of me and 3 of my best buddies from high school: Brian Lane (vocals), Erika Tamberrino (bass), and Joshua Woolcott (drums). I did guitar. Originally it was just me, Brian, and our buddy Patrick Bell (drums) though. Did my two very first out-of-state shows with them, too! One was in North Carolina where we opened for a lot of metal bands and even played for Jennifer “JennCity” Arroyo. From what I remember she actually really liked us. Then we also played in Brooklyn, New York, at this place called The Trash Bar. It was awesome. Both of those were going on at the same time as Dismantle The Architect, which I am currently doing vocals for. We started up in 2011 with me, Steven Terry (founder and bassist), Justin Bippus (guitarist), and Joey Woodard (drums). We had a second guitarist for about a month or so named Chris McDaniel, but he had to quit almost immediately due to some personal issues going on in his life or something of the sort. So it stayed as just a 4-piece for the entire first two years. We did eventually pick up another insanely talented dude, Ashby Pernell, on second guitar. Right off the bat we knew between him and Justin, we were going to have a great sound. We did a demo, all home-recorded, played some shows, played Kingdom, Canal Club, backyards, house parties, Wonderland Bar, all kinds of crazy places. Our first show was actually in a church, which is hilarious given we’re definitely not what you’d probably consider “church-friendly.” In 2013 we parted ways with Joey and got Josiah Hunt on drums. That’s when everything blew up. Josiah is definitely an exceptional drummer; I’d say everybody I’ve done music with are exceptionally talented at what they do. When we got Josiah we found our fit and knew exactly what we wanted our sound to be. We started playing more in the vein of stuff we loved like Pig Destroyer, The Black Dahlia Murder, The Faceless, Augury, Mastodon, Strapping Young Lad, The Dillinger Escape Plan (huh, go figure!), Fleshgod Apocalypse, Cryptopsy, you name it… we probably liked it!
We did a bunch of shows all over Virginia, and even played in front of representatives for Sumerian Records twice. It was that “Headbang for the Highway” deal where winning bands from all over the country were going up for a spot in that year’s Summer Slaughter Festival. I think the other one we did was for Mayhem Festival. We obviously were more than ready to take our shot at a break like that! But, we lost to two bands we all honestly felt deserved it anyway. One was Yesterday’s Saints and the other was Morta. They both kicked ass, seriously. I’m glad they won. We continued to play shows and gain a lot of notoriety but hit an unforeseen, mutual hiatus over a bunch of personal things, scheduling conflicts, and our drummer Josiah moving away in 2014. Honestly, after all that, none of us really spoke to each other much for an entire year or more. That, however, is an extremely long story I don’t feel the need to put overtop of an already extremely long story. Too personal. But, regardless, it’s all behind us now and as of February of this year, me, Steven, and Ashby all got back up with each other. We were minus Justin unfortunately, but in his place we got Sergio Quintero on guitar to take his place. Sergio, or “Serg” as we call him, is a really great friend of mine who was also in The Goose for a while, and when it comes to precision and technicality in playing guitar? He’s flawless. He’s like to me what Trey Spruance is to Mike Patton in a lot of ways, if you will. So amongst the four of us, we’ve all got great chemistry and despite all the life difficulties we’re going through currently, we’re doing all we can to make it work. We’ve tried out a lot of drummers to no avail, but finally just got a guy who seems like he’ll be a solid fit for us, then we can go back on stage and tear it up again! We recorded a new single, entitled “Puppet,” back in March of this year that can be heard here: www.dismantlethearchitectrva.bandcamp.com/releases We’ll have new stuff on the way as well. It’s gonna be great. Also, I’d like to mention two other projects I’m involved in currently: Gage Asylum, which is comprised of me and my best buddy Zach Neve (ex-Goose, ex-Strange Days, and actually also ex-bassist of local RVA band Inquiry), and we’ve been working on stuff that runs in the vein of music like Alice in Chains, Type-O Negative, Stone Temple Pilots, Lacuna Coil, Korn, Ghost, Deftones, Primus, Deli Creeps, Faith No More, and a slew of other musical collectives we’re obsessed with. Me and Zach have always been in and out of bands together so it’s pretty much seemed like we’re meant to be in a project of our own. Everyone who’s ever seen us play says we have some of the best musical chemistry they’ve ever seen. Either way, though, I’m really stoked about doing music with him again as of 2013 up to now. We released an album on iTunes via TuneCore in 2014, but I don’t know if it can be found there anymore and we’re planning to revamp it soon anyway. So for now we have a bunch of select songs on our bandcamp: www.gageasylum.bandcamp.com Also, I do a solo project that I’ve had going since 2010 known as “Asylum.” To clear up the possible confusion now, there IS another band around here named “Asylum” that is more on the hardcore/grindcore side. I’ve been getting a bit more buzz with my solo stuff lately so I’m doing all I can to keep the confusion from causing any troubles, but, check them out anyway! They’re insanely great! Anyway, “Asylum,” is and has been literally just kind of a dumping ground for all the songs I write/record/perform that don’t have any place in anything else I do. So, it’s kind of a weird mix of all different styles ranging from prog, rock, alternative, ambient, indie, pop, all the way to funk, jazz, metal, hardcore, grindcore, sludge, etc. I guess the best way to put it is that I’m on the experimental/avant-garde spectrum with it. There are no boundaries and I just write new material freely almost every time I get a new song in my head. I have one full album from 2015 out on bandcamp and am working on a second one to be released October 1st of this year. Both can and will be found at www.asylummusic.bandcamp.com Finally, I’d like to add as an honorable mention that I’ve done production work on a slew of tracks for my friend Drew Etheridge’s “BETA.” album, along with guest guitar and vocals! Drew’s a young, extremely talented dude who does hip-hop and works with an ethic of professional quality. I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone with as much of a drive, passion, and hard-working mentality at his age (17) as he definitely exhibits with anything he does. So yeah, shoutout to him and PLEASE go listen to his album at www.inhansed.bandcamp.com/album/BETA You will only regret not having done so before.
Anything else you want to add?
I want to greatly thank everyone in Dillinger Escape Plan for everything they do and giving me a golden opportunity I’ll never forget. I also want to thank all of GWAR and GWAR B-Q staff, along with all bands on the bill and everyone who came out for making this whole thing happen and absolutely killing it. I want to thank my friends Dakota Trimm and Steven Terry for being there and encouraging me. I want to thank Evan Milowic for capturing the GoPro video (sorry it fell and got really bad angles, man! I promise if I had been more coherent in the moment I wouldn’t have made that mistake!), I want to thank my manager Sean Brennan and coworkers who were there with him for being awesome and getting pictures of me, also big thanks and major shoutouts to everyone who talked with me, got video, got pictures, and just generally made me feel cool for a day! Much love! Also thanks to all friends and family for everything and sharing this around. And last but not least, I want to thank my dearly beloved pals in the JNFC for encouraging me and Kenny Roberts and Adrianna Alfman for helping me handle all the overwhelming response this brought about. I can’t be anymore grateful than I have been these past few days and I owe it to so many people. This was something I’ll never forget but am sincerely humbled by and glad everyone has gotten to be a part of! I’m still wearing the wrist band from the event and haven’t stopped smiling for three days straight.
About Author
Interviews
INTERVIEW WITH KURT DEIMER

EMPIRE EXTREME GOT TO INTERVIEW KURT DEIMER ABOUT THE NEW ALBUM “A GROG IS BORN” HIM WORKING WITH GEOFF TATE AND JOSH TODD AND BEING KILLED BY MICHAEL MEYERS AND HORROR MOVIES

About Author
Empire Interviews
Inferious—Interview
by Josh Drespling
I was at Preserving Underground to cover Filth and Resistor. I was all set with my photo pass and cameras at the ready. And then this young band exploded onto the stage. No grand entrance, no intro music, no flashy lights—just a wall of noise from the first guitar chord and a guttural growl that seemed to come from somewhere below the floorboards. I was blown away. Thoroughly impressed.
This band was Inferious, out of Dayton, Ohio. If you look up the word “inferious,” most dictionaries will tell you it means something low-status, submissive, or fit for sacrifice. But this Ohio metalcore outfit Inferious has spent the last several years proving that definition couldn’t be more wrong. Tonight in the basement of a converted church, Inferious delivered raw, sweat-soaked fury to all who were smart enough to show up early.
Before their set was even half over, I made up my mind that I had to talk to them and let our readers know about this band. Here is how it went:



Empire: This was the first time I have ever seen you guys. I’ve heard your name before but never had the chance to listen. The show tonight was freaking awesome. I loved it from the first few notes. The vocals and the guitar tone just hit ya right in the chest.
Since I am a new fan, can you give me the nickel tour of how you came together and I understand you are from Dayton, Ohio.
Shaun O’Shaughnessy – Guitarist: I live in Dayton, and the original band members all formed in Dayton, but it was kind of a collage of multiple band folks. People from the southwest Ohio area. Gabe [McQueen – vocals] and I were there at the beginning, and then through some line-up changes, this is our current and most solid touring line-up so far with Cody and Kyle. They also are from the area and have been in several bands. So they were always in the same circles, at the same shows, talking to the same people. It all worked out one day.
Empire: Given that, it seems like there is a healthy music scene in Dayton. Are there any good clubs, any fields to play in?
Shaun: It’s hard to say Dayton, Ohio, specifically so much as just southwest Ohio because of the way that Dayton, Columbus, and Cincinnati form like a little triangle. You’re only an hour apart from each other. So we can get into that larger music scene pretty easily. So Dayton itself has venues, but the whole collective area has stuff. There’s some house venues, like Gnome House, there’s Bob’s, but then Cincinnati has Madison Live, and Design Collective [DSGN CLLCTV] was doing shows for a while, but I think they got in trouble.
Cody: Yeah, it some code stuff.
Empire: I think there are a couple decent places in Akron, and even across the border is Huntington, WV?
Shaun: Yeah, that area still does have sick stuff. It’s just farther away from our personal local scene. Cleveland is kind of separate from us too.
Cody: That’s not necessarily our scene, but there is such a good underground local scene from the Huntington / Athens / Charleston area. Shout to Feverwar.
Shaun: We were just at the Grog Shop [outside Cleveland].
Cody: We were at the New Foundry not too long ago.
Empire: Oh, yeah, like upstairs?
Shaun: No, it is Foundry’s new location.
Empire: I’ve not been there.
Shaun: It looks basically like the old one, but it’s new.

Empire: You mentioned the Grog Shop. Were you guys there with Filth and Resistor?
Shaun: Yeah, we’ve been on tour with Filth and Resistor. The first half of the tour had Two-Piece on it; we missed them, but now Mono’s [Monochromatic Black] on for the second half, and they’re homies.
Gabe and I toured with them in Inferious a couple years ago with band called AMTAE, and Monochromatic Black. So, those are long-time homies as well. So, we’ve known Tanya [Elizabeth (Beickert) – Vocals] and Eddie [DeCesare – Drums] for a long time, and Pierce [Akers – Guitar] is our new best friend as well.
Empire: So, it’s just like a big hang for you guys.
Shaun: Yeah, all the homies are back. We’ve toured with Filth before too; we were out with them on the Oceano tour, and then actually a year ago, I think like right now, like today a year ago, we toured with Filth also. So, it’s Filth and Oceano, and then Filth again.
So, it’s been fun to have a full circle of friend hangs, and every night’s been sick. The show turnouts have been amazing, and then just hanging out with all our friends has been amazing.
Empire: That’s part of what makes it fun. Whether you have 50 people or 1000, you have that camaraderie and shared experience.



Empire: So do you currently have an album out? Where do you guys stand with that?
Gabe: We have music out everywhere, on all music platforms: Apple Music, Spotify, Google Play, and YouTube Music. Shit, if you even got to rip that shit, YouTube to MP4, do it, man!
Shaun: We got your back. We got three full lengths and an EP. We are working on a new EP with a label we’re signed to that we’ll announce here soon, but that’s going to be really exciting stuff, and just stoked to be able to get that out soon.
Empire: Cool. So don’t say the label name, but your deal is in place, and then the new album in the fall, winter, spring?
Shaun: Yeah, the EP should be coming out sometime this year, if all the schedules align and everything, but that’s in the works.
Empire: Cool. Filth tour, what’s after that?
Shaun: Finishing up the EP. Record release cycle, and then hopefully touring in support of that. Whether it’s co-headlining with somebody or doing some more support stuff, we’re down for whatever. Hopefully we can fill up the rest of the year.
You know, touring is hard financially, so while we’re able to still make ends meet on the road, it’s hard to pay all the bills, so we’ve got to go home, stack our bread back up, and then be ready to go back out again.
Empire: I understand. Is this your first time in Pittsburgh?
Shaun: We’ve actually played Preserving. This is at least the fifth time.
We played the DIY room, we played this room, this orientation, we played this room when it was facing the other direction. AJ, the owner, has been good to us. He is a rad dude.
Empire: AJ is great.
Shaun: The record shop and merch store upstairs is sick, I just bought a shirt, a Never Ending Game shirt, because we have to do a laundry soon, and I bought a shirt to extend one more day to get through.

Empire: Anything you guys want to add, anything going on? Shameless plugs?
Shaun: This has been a kind of sick tour, because I think we’ve all got to see family members. Gabe’s dad dropped him off, so we got to see Gabe’s dad. We got to go get breakfast with my mom and some family, I saw my aunt. Cody’s mom let us stay at her crib, and we got to hang out with her and his family. Kyle’s family came out last night and hung out, and that was pretty sick, so it’s been a good time.
Empire: Kyle hasn’t said anything, so tell me about your family coming out and seeing the show.
Kyle: I mean, it was my sister’s first time seeing us live.
Empire: What did she have to say? I mean, I’m sure she knew the style.
Kyle: Oh, yeah, she’s conditioned to it.
Empire: She’s not like a Britney Spears fan at a hardcore show?
Kyle: No, no, she’s by far not a normie, but close to it.
Empire: Thank you, gentlemen. That’s all I have today. Appreciate it, and thanks for the show. It was great; loved it.
Shaun: See you next time.


Before that night at Preserving Underground, I’ll be honest: Inferious was just a name on a show flyer. Another opening band before the acts I actually came to see.
That’s the thing about this level of heavy music. The headliners get the lights, the longer set, and the crowd that’s already warmed up. But the openers? They get twenty-five minutes, a soundcheck that barely counts, and a room full of people who are mostly looking at their phones. Inferious didn’t just overcome that. They incinerated it.
What struck me most, sitting down with Shaun, Gabe, Cody, and Kyle after the show, was how unpretentious they were. No egos. No rock-star posturing. Just four guys from southwest Ohio who’ve been grinding in the same circles, playing the same basement venues, and slowly building something real. They talked about the small venues with the same reverence other bands reserve for stadiums. They shouted out Feverwar. They bought merch from the shop upstairs to make it through one more day on the road.
That’s the part you don’t see from the crowd. The financial grind. The van trouble. The “stack our bread back up” reality of modern touring. And yet, here they were—genuinely stoked to have seen family members at shows, genuinely grateful for AJ at Preserving keeping the doors open for underground bands, and genuinely excited about an upcoming EP they couldn’t even name the label for yet.
Inferious may have a name that suggests something low-status, something sacrificial. But after watching them level a converted church in New Kensington, and after listening to them talk about their scene with the easy confidence of people who have nothing to prove, I think the definition needs an update.
Check them out on all the streaming platforms. Catch them when they roll through your town on the next tour. And for the love of God, show up early.
You never know which opening band is going to blow your doors off.
About Author
Empire Interviews
Resistor Interview
Interview with Peter Smith, drummer for Resistor
Live photos by: Ron S. of Empire Extreme
Band promo photo credit: Sean Raynor

Long Island’s Resistor have never been content to simply exist within genre lines—they’d rather bulldoze them entirely. The self-described purveyors of “knuckle dragging wika wika core” are poised to unleash their full-length debut BITE THIS on March 27 via Paid Vacation, and if the advance copies circulating are any indication, the 29-minute assault is exactly the kind of no-skip, leave-them-wanting-more experience the quintet has been perfecting since their 2023 So It Begins EP. Built from the ground up with producer Randy LeBoeuf (Kublai Khan TX, The Acacia Strain) and featuring the turntable wizardry of Manhattan’s own Anthony Arce, the album channels the cocky swagger of nu-metal’s heyday through a hardcore filter that’s equal parts brutal and self-aware—a balance that’s become the band’s signature.
Empire Extreme recently caught up with drummer Pete Smith ahead of the album’s release and the band’s upcoming Northeast run with Filth, including a April 30 stop at Pittsburgh’s Preserving Underground. Over the course of the conversation, Smith dove into the story behind the album’s striking clay sculpture artwork, the reality of playing the Gathering of the Juggalos, why cassettes hold a special place in his heart, and how a wrestling ring full of real blood became the setting for one of the band’s most memorable music videos. He also addressed the obvious elephant in the room: whether those Islander jerseys are going to cause problems when the band hits Penguin and Steeler territory.

Empire Extreme – First off to jump right into it. The new album is coming out March 27, and my first question has to be, what is the album artwork?
Pete – Long story short, we’ve been following this theme with our last couple of records. We started with our EPs, so it all began a couple of years ago. We found this cool clown design that just resonated with us. For the last couple of records, we’ve been doing different versions of this clown. For this last one we found a random clown sculpture on Instagram by a local artist. We all saw it, and we fell in love. It’s so cool, it’s off-putting, but like in the best way. We all like it and fit with the music, so we hit the guy up. Initially it wasn’t available, then came to find out he likes our music, and he’s already a fan. Then he was like, “Yeah, you guys can just totally use the artwork” He was super stoked about it. So yeah, it makes a fun story.
Empire Extreme – That’s awesome, I was going to ask you about who the artist was. Can you give us his name, and give him some props?
Pete – Yeah, I believe on Instagram it’s Clay for Brains. His name is Tim. He makes these really cool clay sculptures.
Empire Extreme – Oh, so it’s like a three-dimensional kind of art?
Pete – Yeah, it’s a real sculpture. Our singer [Anthony Grambo] does a lot of graphic design work, so he took the sculpture and made into it what it is on the record.
Empire Extreme – That’s awesome that you are hands-on with that, and plus you got a local guy.

Empire Extreme – Speaking local, you guys are from New York, whereabouts?
Pete – Yeah, so we’re pretty much all based on Long Island, New York, but our DJ [Anthony Arce] lives in Manhattan. We’re all from more western Long Island, and you know. We definitely claim New York. You’ll see us wearing New York stuff, pretty much everywhere you see us. We’re not shy about it, but yeah, Long Island boys for sure.
Empire Extreme – As you know Empire is based in Pittsburgh, and I’ve seen a couple photos of you guys wearing an Islander’s jersey. That’s just not going to go well when the tour hits Pittsburgh. This is deep Penguin and Steelers territory. LOL!
Pete – You know, good thing our singer is not here. He would have a lot of things to say about the Islander’s. For me, it’s the Mets.
Empire Extreme – How about the Jets? We stole Aaron Rodgers now, so…
Pete – Oh, God. Yeah, honestly, my whole family is Jets fans, I haven’t paid attention to football for a long time. It’s very hard as a Jets fan, so you don’t want to pay attention. It’s pretty depressing.

Empire Extreme – All right, back to music stuff. You guys are doing a handful of shows with Filth. Resistor has done some shows with them before, but you seem like kind of buddies. How did that all develop, and are you looking forward to this next handful of shows with them?
Pete – We are all super excited about these shows. We met the guys in Filth. I believe it was summer 2024. That was when we were first gaining any bit of traction. We had finally released our new EP. We were really stoked when we got the first offer with them and it was like an instant connection. We became great friends, and since then, it’s history.
This is going to be our third run together, and this one might be the best one. It has so many good bands on it, a lot of good shows. It’s going to be really awesome.
Empire Extreme – Filth has been one of my favorites in the last couple years. Resistor kind of came onto my radar because of them, plus you were all over my socials. I think it was because of Filth or whatever, but yeah.
Pete – On our second tour together, I actually filled in with Filth on drums, so there’s a bit of it. We’re connected in more ways than one, for sure.


Empire Extreme – Well, your singer, Grambo is a big Limp Bizkit fan. With Filth redoing “Rolling”, is there any chance that you might knock out some type of collaboration or do something silly live?
Pete – We’ve always thrown up the idea of doing some kind of collab, but I’ll leave it at that. I won’t spoil it if we will or we won’t. If it happens, if it happens.
Empire Extreme – All right. Please explain “knuckle dragging wika wika core”.
Pete – “Knuckle dragging wika wika core” at its core, no pun intended is the best way that we can describe what we do. We feel like we’re doing something familiar, but it’s also something that is hard to place into a specific genre because we feel like it can kind of fall under a couple of things. So, we’re like, we got to start thinking of our own thing to call it. And what we landed on was “knuckle dragging wika wika core”. It’s just about crazy, heavy riffs. You know, stuff that makes you want to drag your knuckles across the ground and then you hear the wika, wika, wika, in the background. So, we just put them together.
Empire Extreme – When I first saw that, I just kind of laughed inside. I was like, that nails it right there.
Pete – Yeah, exactly. You know, we’re like, while we are super heavy, with a the “fuck you” [attitude] we also try to be a little goofy and self-aware of where we are. And we’re not taking ourselves too seriously. We are having fun.

Empire Extreme – Can you tell us about working with Randy LeBoeuf (Acacia Stain, Misery Signals, Counterparts, Thy Art is Murder, Every Time I Die, Unity TX, Kublai Khan TX)?
Pete – Randy, I cannot say enough positive things about him? Because he truly is like one of the best at what he does. But yeah, we went to the studio around mid-August last year. And I think up until November, we were writing and recording. We did have a month-long tour in between. But otherwise, we were literally at the studio writing, recording, almost the whole second half of last year. We feel like once it comes out, this record is really going to let people see why we’re taking so long.
Empire Extreme – We got an advance copy here at Empire and I have listened to it probably, I don’t know maybe 10 or 12 times. Just the heaviness of the whole album and it has that groove and a real hip-hop sensibility to it.
Pete – That’s awesome. Do you have a favorite song by any chance? Not to you on the spot first. The one that sticks out to you.
Empire Extreme – I don’t know the names off the top of my head. They all kind of still blend together in my head. But obviously the two singles you put out the videos for. I mean, both of those are slammin’.
Pete – I’m only asking because we are at a weird point where the album’s coming out in two weeks and obviously, we’re going to start playing live and we’re going to start releasing more music videos. So, I just wanted to kind-of get a vibe of what people are enjoying right off the bat.
Empire Extreme – I know exactly what you mean. Let me say this, you know, people say back in the day it used to be albums. How it is now with singles and streaming. We would listen to the whole album without skipping a single track.
Pete – Exactly. That was our main goal with this for sure. We wanted a no skip album. You know, a full listening experience.
Empire Extreme – Yes, it is. Plus, with the entire album clocking in at 29 or 30 minutes long? It’s like, oh, it’s over already.
Pete – Exactly. That’s another thing that we always preached that you never want to overstay your welcome. When it comes to live sets, but also with albums too. We very much want to leave them wanting more. You don’t want to get to the end of an album or a live set and be like, all right, we’ll I wish they were done 10 minutes ago. So, yeah, that’s like our number one thing. We always want to leave people wanting more. That’s a big thing for us.
Empire Extreme – I’ve been in lots of different bands in my life and that was always one of my things. Leave them wanting more because then they’re going to buy the CD, then they’re going to check us out online and even come to another show. We didn’t want to go there and play for an hour and bore them after half an hour.
Pete – I can’t tell you how many bands I’ve watched for the first 20 minutes of the show. Like, this is awesome. I’m so stoked. Even though it could be my favorite band on the planet, I’m watching it for 20, 30 minutes. This is awesome. This rules. And then, you know, minute by minute, you start to feel like, ah, I just wanna go home, this going to go all night.
Empire Extreme – Yeah, you’re looking at your phone and your watch.
Pete – Yes, exactly. I’ve got to speak about it from a showgoer’s perspective or a listener’s perspective, you know? Yeah, that’s a thing that is important to us.

Empire Extreme – You mentioned the videos. Currently there’s the “Dead Soul” and “Petty Fuck” videos. You kind of mentioned there’s more in the works. What’s the story?
Pete – Yeah, I won’t spoil what song it’s for. We did just shoot a video yesterday. That should be coming out the day of the record. It’s going to be really cool. It’s a really funny video. It’s not like the ones we’ve done before. It’s pretty much all a story. It’s very juicy. It’s so ridiculous that you’ll laugh when you see it. It’s not like any video you’ve ever seen before. I can promise you that.
Empire Extreme – I’m looking forward to it.

You guys played the Gathering of the Juggalos this past summer. I’m very familiar with the Juggalo family and have been involved with Psychopathic off and on over the year. It can be intimidating going in knowing that some bands get up there and they are pelted with bottles and booed off stage.
Pete – I want to be as positive as possible, but I’m not going to lie. It wasn’t a great experience. It’s one of those things where I’m happy, we did it. I’m glad to say that we did it. The community, we love the community. The people that were there to see us were super stoked. We love the community and the fans. The time was just weird. We just had to play early, and we also were in the middle of the studio. So, we had to drive from New York to Ohio for one day at a festival and then we drove right back. And things just didn’t line up for us.
Empire Extreme – So it was more of a logistics thing?
Pete – Yeah, I don’t want to say it was a totally bad experience. Just walking around the festival was crazy. You know what I mean? It is certainly site to see. It was a lot of fun. Everybody there was super cool and super nice. I love all the fans. Everyone who we talked to were the coolest people ever. I highly recommend that if you could go you should go once in your life. I would recommend going because it’s so ridiculous. It’s awesome.
Empire Extreme – That moment you walk in the gates of the Gathering. You’re just like, Oh my.
Pete – You know, it’s unlike anything you could truly do on the planet. So, in that sense, it rules. Our guitar player [Anthony Conti] did a Faygo launch competition, which is pretty funny. That probably was the highlight for me. I wish I could say it was like the best thing ever. And there were 5,000 people watching us, but yeah, we can’t win them all.
Empire Extreme – Well, the way they have it set up with the multiple stages and some of them are playing at four o’clock in the morning or whatever.
Pete – That’s the thing. The stage that we played was the second stage out of three. We thought it was like it’s like this big stage near everybody. It was a pretty big stage, but the problem is it’s not near anybody or anything. It was a 10-minute walk away from the main stage and then down a huge hill. If you weren’t near the hill, you couldn’t even see the stage at all. So, no one even knew where we were playing.
Empire Extreme – How was the load into that stage?
Pete – Surprisingly that was the easiest part. I think the only real issue was how early we had to play. Our set time was around four o’clock. We were like “Oh, that’s perfect.” We are right in the middle of day, everyone’s going to be like hanging out. But I think the reality is with the Gathering people aren’t really getting active until a bit later, you know what I mean? It takes until six or seven o’clock and then people start to come out and party. We realized that after the fact, but you know, you live and learn.
That’s why I said it’s like a lot of, a lot of little things. But overall, it was a fun experience, something I’m glad that we did for sure. We just had a couple little of hiccups.

Empire Extreme – To rewind back to the album, I forgot to ask you about the blue vinyl version coming out.
Pete – Yeah, this is our first time doing a vinyl for a full record. We have vinyl up for pre-order now on our website; weareresistor.com. If anyone wants a pre-order vinyl, we got them there. It’s a pretty short run. I think it’s only 300 copies. Once they’re gone, they’re gone. And we will also have them on tour too.
If anyone sees us in person, we’ll have tour vinyls as well.
Empire Extreme – You guys have a date here in Pittsburgh, I think it’s at the end of April or something like that? (Thursday, April 30 at Preserving Underground with Filth, Monochromatic Black, and Inferious)
Pete – Yeah. We’re hitting the Northeast towards the end of the month.
Empire Extreme – What does this band mean to you? I mean, is it a release or therapy, an escape, or a way to pick up chicks or an attempt to get rich?
Pete – Well, I would say if getting rich was my main priority I would have been out of this a long, long time ago. The real reason I’m here is just to make really, really cool music.
My parents are musicians. They’re lifelong musicians. So, it’s something I felt that I was meant to do from a very young age. It’s literally in my blood. My dad is a drummer and my mom’s a singer. That happens to be the two things that I do. You know, it’s a predictable path I went down. I wouldn’t have it any other way.
Empire Extreme – Did you start out playing drums when you were a kid or did you start out on another instrument?
Pete – My first real instrument was upright bass. I played that all through elementary, middle, and high school. I played drums here and there as a kid, but I didn’t really have a passion for it. Until maybe when I was starting high school. I joined the band. Well, the original reason was because of this girl. I guess you could say that. It was like she was in the band, and I liked her, so I started playing drums more, and then it all went from there.
Empire Extreme – That’s funny and cool. So, who was your drum idol?
Pete – That’s a tough one. I have a few of them. Do you know the band called Periphery?
Empire Extreme – Yeah, I’m familiar with them.
Pete – Their drummer, his name is Matt Halpern. He was a big, big inspiration. I mean, just his style of playing. It’s a very progressive, very smooth style, very loose, and a lot of ghost notes and cymbals. You know cool little flourishes here and there. I really love that. And the obvious one Joey Jordison of Slipknot. They are one of my favorite bands of all time and hearing his drumming in the band. He had some of the first crazy drumming I’ve heard in my life. That’s an easy one. So, yeah, those two would be the ones if I had to [give] credit to me starting
Empire Extreme – Those are two very prolific drummers. You mentioned Slipknot, and I can hear some of that influence in the new album. The Slipknot rhythm kind of thing. I have it right here in my notes. Limp Bizkit mixed with Slipknot and some punk rock and some newer bands too.
Pete – Yeah, I kind of bring a modern style mixed with some old school style, you know what I mean?
Empire Extreme – Yeah, not to say that it’s all over the place, but it’s pulling from lots of different areas.
Pete – For what it’s worth, it is kind of is all over the place, but in a good way. We wanted it to be a little all over the place. We wanted to be something that, while it’s familiar, it’s something that people haven’t heard before.

Empire Extreme – I have kind of a handful of oddball weird questions, and you can answer them as you like.
Pete – Yeah, sure.
Empire Extreme – When you guys are driving in the van from show to show, who controls the music in the vehicle?
Pete – My personal rule is whoever is driving. When I’m driving, I will not break that rule. Otherwise, it depends on who’s driving. Some of the people in the van are more anal about their music being played. For me I won’t have it any other way. I gotta focus, you know what I mean? I need to have my own music or a podcast or something like that to keep me focused on the road, you know.
Empire Extreme – OK next one. Are you prepared for a zombie apocalypse or AI becoming aware? And is there a difference between the two?
Pete – I think I would take a zombie apocalypse over AI to be honest. But I think the second one is unfortunately way more likely one that happens. I’m probably not prepared for that. I don’t think any of us are. I think I’m probably completely fucked when that drops. At least with AI, I’m kind of already mentally prepared for that one.


Empire Extreme – Here is another silly one. If a cartoon character was to join Resistor, what cartoon character would it be?
Pete – Oh, that’s, a really good question. Mm-hmm. Maybe Beavis and Butt-Head, well one of those two.
Empire Extreme – That’s a great answer.
Pete – I feel like they would like sitting in our van, I feel like it would work. You know? The conversations are all over the place.
Empire Extreme – They’d fit right in, is what you’re saying?
Pete – Yeah, exactly.

Empire Extreme – Here’s another stupid one. Every time you walk into a room and a song plays, what would that song be?
Pete – It’s probably The Rock theme song. That is completely it. Or something really goofy or cheesy. I can’t take myself too seriously, to be honest, something along those lines.
Empire Extreme – You mentioned The Rock. One of my questions that I kind of skipped over was I’ve seen several of your social media posts and whoever is responding from your band has used wrestler memes several times. There was Stone Cold one and a Rock one. So, are you guys wrestling fans and who, what, why, where?
Pete – I would say our singer. He was the most into it out of any of us. I know he was into the old-school early 2000s era. We have a Resistor 3:16 shirt, like the classic Stone Cold shirt. I don’t know if you’ve seen the Come Mierda video, but we literally did it inside a wrestling ring with the real wrestlers. They were just beating the shit out of each other while we’re playing. There is a scene where one of the guys breaks a full light tube over to the other guy’s head and there’s blood everywhere. It’s all real. Nothing was faked. Its all real blood. We had to tarp off the whole thing, it was ridiculous, but a lot of fun. It is my favorite music video we have shot. The actual act of shooting it was so fun because we had a bunch of people literally pretending it was an actual wrestling event. The wrestlers had to do their walk-ins while we were playing and beat the shit out of each other. I also didn’t realize how bouncy a wrestling ring is. When you’re trying to play drums, you bounce and it is all over the place while smashing each other on the floor. It’s no wonder they are jumping from 10 feet off the ground. Makes sense. It was literally like going into a bounce house, but it had a metal floor.
Empire Extreme – I got a couple more stupid ones here. Have you ever gone to spring break?
Pete – No no. I’m not a party person. I’m very much more of a sit at home and play video games guy.
Empire Extreme – Last one, and I’ll get out of here and let you get back to your life. What is your preference. Vinyl, cassette, CDs, 8-tracks, download, stream?
Pete – Okay, so for obvious convenience’s sake streaming is great. But I don’t think it’s the best way to listen to music by any means. Nor do I think it’s good for artists, you know, Spotify and all that. You know the problems in the streaming industry. But honestly, I would love to go back to more cassettes. There’s a certain nostalgia that comes with listening to a tape. Listening to a CD still feels modern. But there is just something I like about it. I remember riding around in the car with my dad as a kid, and he’d always listen to cassettes, and he’d put me onto different bands. He had Rage Against The Machine tapes, and all these different bands. So, I think cassettes would probably be my number one, just for nostalgia purposes.
Empire Extreme – With the cassettes it kind of forces you to listen to the whole album. Skipping was kinda difficult trying to figure out where the next song starts.
Pete – Yeah, exactly. And similar, at least with vinyl you can lift it, but you’re more encouraged to listen to it from front to back, rather than just skipping through.
Empire Extreme – To wrap up is there anything you want to add? Any self-promotion?
Pete – Well, I’ll just end it by shouting out the band.
WeAreResistor on all platforms. Our new album, Bite This, drops on March 27, which I believe is less than two weeks away now, so that’s pretty crazy. But yeah, we’re streaming on all the platforms. We’ve got pre-orders on our website, weareresistor.com.
Empire Extreme – Awesome, great. Thank you for your time. Hopefully I get to check you guys out when you come through Pittsburgh here next month.
Pete – Yeah, I’m so looking forward to it.
Resistor is:
Anthony Grambo [vocals]
Anthony Conti [guitar]
Ian Schneider [bass]
Anthony Arce [turntables]
Peter Smith [drums]

You must be logged in to post a comment Login