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Empire Extreme got to talk to the multi talented and industrial Germanic gods of Hanzel und Gretyl about all things new and old and everything evil in between.

EE: Satanik Germanik just released how’s the fan response been?

Vas: So far our solid fan base seem to love it and most reviews say it’s the most serious we’ve been with our music. Everyone has their personal opinion of us and everyone prefers one or the other certain style that we play. We try to cover all bases. But this CD is our most darkest and most serious. I do appreciate it when people keep an open mind and totally understand our journey down the burning path.

Kaizer Von Loopy: All of our albums deal with what i regard as the 3 basic food groups of metal or industrial, those are: futurism/sci-fi ,militarist/politics, and religion/ the occult… in our case often with tongue firmly planted in cheek! some of the past CD’s have dealt in these themes or aesthetic in varying degrees but the past 2 , Black Forest Metal and Satanik Germanik clearly lean heavy on the occult side! the response as always with us, excites some and can disappoint others as we shift gears which we often do! That being said the response has been favorable! i think sonically, this is our best produced and darkest CD to date!

EE: Was the recording and writing process any different from previous albums?

Vas: Yes. I demoed the majority of these songs back in 2015 during the cold winter months at home, sipping on a nice bottle of scotch. So when it came time to finally get these songs into Loopy’s Recording studio, they were mostly arranged and vocals done. He took what I did and added some new arrangements, along with magical drum programming and the Kaizer killer guitar riffs, while writing the remaining songs himself. We practically only met up in person in the studio several times per month instead of the usual day to day work. It went quite smoothly..

Kaizer Von Loopy: Advances in recording technology is really making collaboration easier as we can better avoid the horrors of occupying the same space in a creative setting! lol!! I took Vas’ demos and spent 5 months largely alone, 12 hours a day, programming, rewriting at times, composing and adding a fair amount of orchestration to her very raw tracks. Vas Kallas tends to get the best performances vocally on the first take so rather than have her rerecord her vocals, she was surprised that i instead used her demoed vocal takes she did right into her laptop with her consumer level dynamic mic. i had her rerecord only a chorus here or there into the expensive Neumann U87 condenser, but largely i used her home demo takes with a shit ton of processing of course whilst still maintaining the integrity of the take! i record my vocals with a beat up beer drenched wireless mic i use on stage. i hate setting up microphones it slows my workflow! i prefer to program as much as possible! conventional recording technique does not excite me, i love virtual EVERYTHING! i record at such low levels living in an apartment in the Bronx!

EE: Favorite song off the new album?

Vas: That’s tough to choose. I like then all!! Each of my favs have a deep meaning to me personally… either musically or lyrically….The most deeply felt are We Rise As Demons, Black Six Order, I am Bad luck, Sonnenkreuz’. I guess that’s most of the CD LOLOL!

Kaizer Von Loopy: the first song Golden Dämmerung and the last song Kinamreg Kinatas have been referred to as “Black Metal Yoga” music which i believe is a genre unto itself, one created by ME!!! however inadvertently. lol!  I’m also am partial to “Trinken Mit Der Kaizer (Der Bierz From Hell) for obvious reasons!

EE: Favorite song from full catalog of HUG?

Vas: It’s crazy to choose just one, since we have so many songs, so many years, so many styles and influences! But to be honest, I would say the most fav popular song to play live of all time which never leaves the set list is
Third Reich From the Sun” ..
BUT, my most personal favs are: Pentagram Sky, 11:11, Trance Planet Vortex, 10th Circle… to name a few…

Kaizer Von Loopy: Number 1 In Deutshcland, Fukken Uber Death Party, Ich Bin Uber Alles, I’m Movin’ To Deutschland, Kaizerreich, I could go on but i will, Kaiser Von Shizer, and of course DAS BOOT!! and not because i wrote these and sing most of them but yeah because that…I like shit you can yell and drink to!! PERIOD!! …or do yoga to.

EE: This year marks the 25th anniversary of HUG, I’ve been a devoted fan since 1996. How’s it feel to hit that landmark?

Vas: Woooa! It makes me feel like “what just happened?” and how did it go by so fast? First off, thank you for being on that Long Ride with us since 1996 and still with us! I know we’ve evolved into many things…. and appreciate the open mindedness of yourself and anyone that understands the flow of our strangely evolving creativity! We’ve been though a lot of tours, moments, people, places, and drummers, leaving a trail of empty beer bottles and dirty lederhosen behind…..It’s kind of mind-blowing and I don’t like to think about it too much. Do I need to start writing my Bucket List? lol!

Kaizer Von Loopy: when we started i think the Rolling Stones were a 25 year old band, i honestly never thought we’d reach that milestone! i figured i woulda drank myself to death by now or Vas woulda broken her hip onstage!! maybe at the same time!

EE: Any chances of hearing on a new album or live any stuff from Transmissions or Ausgeflippt? Maybe even a heavier version of one of those songs?

VAS: As a matter of fact we are in the long, intricate process of trying to legally get those back. As they say “it’s complicated”. If all goes well, we should have some interesting product to report. I’ve always wanted to re-record those songs as well.. and maybe we will. It’s up to the Kaizer von Loopenstein! … what says you Kaizer???

Kaizer Von Loopy: I fully intend that we will rerelease those early tracks possibly rerecorded and do a dedicated tour for it at some point!! Satan willing….

EE: Vas- any chance of a cycle sluts from Hell reunion?

VAS: That would be a Hell no. But, if it was at all possible, it would certainly be a fun thing to do. But sometimes, it’s best to let the memories remain as is…

Kaizer Von Loopy: only if i can play cowbell!!

EE: If you could have any German band do a cover of HUG song, who would you want?

Vas: Rammstein must do “ I’m Moving to Deutschland” and “ Third Reich from the Sun” That would be both Hilarious and Intensely Hilarious!

Kaizer Von Loopy: i would really love for Roland Kaiser to cover Kaiser Von Shizer! then i can retire happily!! #lifegoals

EE: Kaizer Von Loopy- will we see a KyzrWölf album in the future?

Kaizer Von Loopy: ABSOLOOPY!! i released the full length album “REICHSTAR” by KyzrWölf independently in 2017 available only through my website www.kyzrwolf.com. I will be working towards a new KyzrWölf release for 2019!

EE: Any chance of the highly elusive Oz Faktor album ever seeing the light of day?

Vas: If we are able to get our old music back, hopefully Oz Faktor would be part of the package. Recorded in 1997-1999 I believe. It’s a time capsule of an era long gone.

Kaizer Von Loopy: We are looking into acquiring our early catalog and we are determined to get Oz Faktor released!! it’s a very important CD for us and the HuG fan as you can really hear the transition from the heavily electronic, analog synth and sample oriented 90’s era HuG morphing into the more aggressive metal unit we are now.

EE: Any plans for touring the US for Satanik Germanik?

Vas: You’re going to have to wait for it…We hope this will change in 2019. Instead we’re going to focus on more interesting products and more music.

Kaizer Von Loopy: right now, we are very focussed on taking the time to develop and deliver the kind of show and live experience we want to create that can include the full range of HuG era material from our inception as a band! of course there will be a tour for Satanik Germanik however! our sites are set on 2019! the last 10 years or more have been pretty hectic with touring and recording. we are looking forward to taking the time to refine our live performance. …and find a dog sitter!!

I have been a huge fan of HUG for many years now, they have always evolved their music while still having that same sound. I met them back in the day and still they are just as friendly now with their fans as they were back then. I can’t wait to see what the future has in store for Hanzel und Gretyl.

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EIHWAR COME TO BALTIMORE TO BRING THE VIKING WAR TRANCE

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IVE BEEN SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THE UPCOMING TOUR FOR EIHWAR. I FOUND THEM ON THE INTERNET AND THEY BLEW ME AWAY WITH THEIR VIKING/FOLK/PAGAN MUSIC MIXED WITH ELECTRONIC. EIHWAR WILL BE COMING TO THE RECHER IN TOWNSON MARYLAND ON AUGUST 30TH. EMPIRE EXTREME GOT TO ASK THE DUO A FEW QUESTIONS BEFORE THE SHOW.

ARE YOU EXCITED ABOUT DOING YOUR FIRST AMERICAN TOUR? ANY AMERICAN THINGS OR PLACES YOU WANT TO EXPLORE?

ASRUNN: For now, I have to admit I’m still completely stunned. I’m not excited or imagining it yet at all. Right now, I feel like I’m about to go to a country that only exists in TV shows, so I’m still kind of wading through disbelief.

Once I’m actually there, though, I’ll probably start talking way too fast and way too loud, and I’ll want to go way too everywhere.

HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN VIKING WAR TRANCE AS A GENRE OF MUSIC?

MARK: Viking War Trance is basically what happens when you mix Nordic folk influences, tribal rhythms, electronic music and something much more primitive and aggressive. We wanted music that makes you want to dance, fight and enter some kind of trance at the same time. So instead of trying to fit into an existing genre, we just called it Viking War Trance. And about the word “war”: it’s not a war against others, but a war against ourselves. Against our rigidity, our limiting beliefs, our fears. Victory is letting go. 

WHAT CAN FANS EXPECT WHEN SEEING THE BAND LIVE?

MARK: Our concerts are much more physical than people sometimes expect from listening to the albums. We want people to dance, scream, jump, crowd surf and completely lose themselves for an hour. It’s somewhere between a concert, a rave and a pagan ritual, but with a lot of joy. “Joyful chaos” is the word that Asrunn often use.

WHAT WAS IT LIKE PLAYING HELLFEST AND WACKEN?

ASRUNN: It’s basically spending an entire hour on stage thinking, “Seriously, what the hell am I doing here? This makes absolutely no sense,” and then, the second it’s over, thinking, “Fuck, that was WAY TOO SHORT!”, hahahahaha!

In reality, it’s a mix of intense concentration and this explosion of joy inside when we manage to bring such a huge crowd into our madness with us. It’s as if, all of a sudden, we’re no longer men and women, but one human tribe, united by joy and raw energy.

HOW DO YOU FEEL THAT YOUR STYLE OF VIKING MUSIC AND IMAGE DIFFERS FROM OTHER VIKING AND FOLK METAL?

MARK: What sets us apart from folk metal is simply that we’re not metal. We don’t use distorted guitars or acoustic drums. As for pagan folk, I think the differences are pretty obvious too. Most pagan bands take a fairly ceremonial approach, resulting in atmospheric, ambient music. Some of them are even very serious. From our point of view, seriousness is a symptom of bad digestion. We prefer to fool around.

As for the peace you find in atmospheric ritual music, we don’t know much about it. Asrunn, our leader, is nothing like a priestess in a linen dress singing with butterflies in the forest. She’s living anger. Our music is joyful and brutal, primitive techno made to dance to until the end of the night.

The biggest difference is also, and perhaps above all, harmonic, in the musicological sense. With ancient instruments, it’s difficult to modulate frequently or to play every note in every octave. We use machines, and that gives us much more freedom to create melodies and chord progressions that evolve constantly and are far more pop-oriented than ancient instruments would normally allow.

DREAM TOUR: YOU CAN GO ON TOUR WITH ANY 2 OTHER BANDS, WHO DO YOU CHOOSE?

ASRUNN: MmmmdzgebhfugzFDBZueisfg that’s WAY too hard to choooooose HAAAAA! I’d say……….. NIN and… well, Sofia Isella, lately. She’s tooooooo good to be true.

MARK: The Prodigy and Peter Gabriel

FAVORITE GAME OF THRONES CHARACTER? 

MARK: Don’t know, but I like the soundtrack.

ASRUNN: Bree Van De Kamp.

IF YOU COULD RESURRECT ONE HISTORIC VIKING WHO WOULD IT BE? 

MARK: Honestly, my memories from that time aren’t clear enough for me to really know. But I was very fond of the monk Eadwig of Durham, and I’d be curious — and happy — to see him again.

ASRUNN: Lagertha, to prove to Mark that he’s wrong when he says she had bigger boobs than me.

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EMPIRE EXTREME GOT TO INTERVIEW KURT DEIMER ABOUT THE NEW ALBUM “A GROG IS BORN” HIM WORKING WITH GEOFF TATE AND JOSH TODD AND BEING KILLED BY MICHAEL MEYERS AND HORROR MOVIES

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Inferious preform live at Preserving Underground April 2026 By Josh Drespling

by Josh Drespling


I was at Preserving Underground to cover Filth and Resistor. I was all set with my photo pass and cameras at the ready. And then this young band exploded onto the stage. No grand entrance, no intro music, no flashy lights—just a wall of noise from the first guitar chord and a guttural growl that seemed to come from somewhere below the floorboards. I was blown away. Thoroughly impressed.

This band was Inferious, out of Dayton, Ohio. If you look up the word “inferious,” most dictionaries will tell you it means something low-status, submissive, or fit for sacrifice. But this Ohio metalcore outfit Inferious has spent the last several years proving that definition couldn’t be more wrong. Tonight in the basement of a converted church, Inferious delivered raw, sweat-soaked fury to all who were smart enough to show up early.

Before their set was even half over, I made up my mind that I had to talk to them and let our readers know about this band. Here is how it went:

Empire: This was the first time I have ever seen you guys. I’ve heard your name before but never had the chance to listen. The show tonight was freaking awesome. I loved it from the first few notes. The vocals and the guitar tone just hit ya right in the chest.

Since I am a new fan, can you give me the nickel tour of how you came together and I understand you are from Dayton, Ohio.

Shaun O’Shaughnessy – Guitarist: I live in Dayton, and the original band members all formed in Dayton, but it was kind of a collage of multiple band folks. People from the southwest Ohio area. Gabe [McQueen – vocals] and I were there at the beginning, and then through some line-up changes, this is our current and most solid touring line-up so far with Cody and Kyle. They also are from the area and have been in several bands. So they were always in the same circles, at the same shows, talking to the same people. It all worked out one day.

Empire: Given that, it seems like there is a healthy music scene in Dayton. Are there any good clubs, any fields to play in?

Shaun: It’s hard to say Dayton, Ohio, specifically so much as just southwest Ohio because of the way that Dayton, Columbus, and Cincinnati form like a little triangle. You’re only an hour apart from each other. So we can get into that larger music scene pretty easily. So Dayton itself has venues, but the whole collective area has stuff. There’s some house venues, like Gnome House, there’s Bob’s, but then Cincinnati has Madison Live, and Design Collective [DSGN CLLCTV] was doing shows for a while, but I think they got in trouble.
Cody: Yeah, it some code stuff.

Empire: I think there are a couple decent places in Akron, and even across the border is Huntington, WV?

Shaun: Yeah, that area still does have sick stuff. It’s just farther away from our personal local scene. Cleveland is kind of separate from us too.

Cody: That’s not necessarily our scene, but there is such a good underground local scene from the Huntington / Athens / Charleston area. Shout to Feverwar.

Shaun: We were just at the Grog Shop [outside Cleveland].

Cody: We were at the New Foundry not too long ago.

Empire: Oh, yeah, like upstairs?

Shaun: No, it is Foundry’s new location.

Empire: I’ve not been there.

Shaun: It looks basically like the old one, but it’s new.

Empire: You mentioned the Grog Shop. Were you guys there with Filth and Resistor?

Shaun: Yeah, we’ve been on tour with Filth and Resistor. The first half of the tour had Two-Piece on it; we missed them, but now Mono’s [Monochromatic Black] on for the second half, and they’re homies.

Gabe and I toured with them in Inferious a couple years ago with band called AMTAE, and Monochromatic Black. So, those are long-time homies as well. So, we’ve known Tanya [Elizabeth (Beickert) – Vocals] and Eddie [DeCesare – Drums] for a long time, and Pierce [Akers – Guitar] is our new best friend as well.

Empire: So, it’s just like a big hang for you guys.

Shaun: Yeah, all the homies are back. We’ve toured with Filth before too; we were out with them on the Oceano tour, and then actually a year ago, I think like right now, like today a year ago, we toured with Filth also. So, it’s Filth and Oceano, and then Filth again.

So, it’s been fun to have a full circle of friend hangs, and every night’s been sick. The show turnouts have been amazing, and then just hanging out with all our friends has been amazing.

Empire: That’s part of what makes it fun. Whether you have 50 people or 1000, you have that camaraderie and shared experience.

Empire: So do you currently have an album out? Where do you guys stand with that?

Gabe: We have music out everywhere, on all music platforms: Apple Music, Spotify, Google Play, and YouTube Music. Shit, if you even got to rip that shit, YouTube to MP4, do it, man!

Shaun: We got your back. We got three full lengths and an EP. We are working on a new EP with a label we’re signed to that we’ll announce here soon, but that’s going to be really exciting stuff, and just stoked to be able to get that out soon.

Empire: Cool. So don’t say the label name, but your deal is in place, and then the new album in the fall, winter, spring?

Shaun: Yeah, the EP should be coming out sometime this year, if all the schedules align and everything, but that’s in the works.

Empire: Cool. Filth tour, what’s after that?

Shaun: Finishing up the EP. Record release cycle, and then hopefully touring in support of that. Whether it’s co-headlining with somebody or doing some more support stuff, we’re down for whatever. Hopefully we can fill up the rest of the year.

You know, touring is hard financially, so while we’re able to still make ends meet on the road, it’s hard to pay all the bills, so we’ve got to go home, stack our bread back up, and then be ready to go back out again.

Empire: I understand. Is this your first time in Pittsburgh?

Shaun: We’ve actually played Preserving. This is at least the fifth time.

We played the DIY room, we played this room, this orientation, we played this room when it was facing the other direction. AJ, the owner, has been good to us. He is a rad dude.

Empire: AJ is great.

Shaun: The record shop and merch store upstairs is sick, I just bought a shirt, a Never Ending Game shirt, because we have to do a laundry soon, and I bought a shirt to extend one more day to get through.

Empire: Anything you guys want to add, anything going on? Shameless plugs?

Shaun: This has been a kind of sick tour, because I think we’ve all got to see family members. Gabe’s dad dropped him off, so we got to see Gabe’s dad. We got to go get breakfast with my mom and some family, I saw my aunt. Cody’s mom let us stay at her crib, and we got to hang out with her and his family. Kyle’s family came out last night and hung out, and that was pretty sick, so it’s been a good time.

Empire: Kyle hasn’t said anything, so tell me about your family coming out and seeing the show.

Kyle: I mean, it was my sister’s first time seeing us live.

Empire: What did she have to say? I mean, I’m sure she knew the style.

Kyle: Oh, yeah, she’s conditioned to it.

Empire: She’s not like a Britney Spears fan at a hardcore show?

Kyle: No, no, she’s by far not a normie, but close to it.

Empire: Thank you, gentlemen. That’s all I have today. Appreciate it, and thanks for the show. It was great; loved it.

Shaun: See you next time.

Before that night at Preserving Underground, I’ll be honest: Inferious was just a name on a show flyer. Another opening band before the acts I actually came to see.

That’s the thing about this level of heavy music. The headliners get the lights, the longer set, and the crowd that’s already warmed up. But the openers? They get twenty-five minutes, a soundcheck that barely counts, and a room full of people who are mostly looking at their phones. Inferious didn’t just overcome that. They incinerated it.

What struck me most, sitting down with Shaun, Gabe, Cody, and Kyle after the show, was how unpretentious they were. No egos. No rock-star posturing. Just four guys from southwest Ohio who’ve been grinding in the same circles, playing the same basement venues, and slowly building something real. They talked about the small venues with the same reverence other bands reserve for stadiums. They shouted out Feverwar. They bought merch from the shop upstairs to make it through one more day on the road.

That’s the part you don’t see from the crowd. The financial grind. The van trouble. The “stack our bread back up” reality of modern touring. And yet, here they were—genuinely stoked to have seen family members at shows, genuinely grateful for AJ at Preserving keeping the doors open for underground bands, and genuinely excited about an upcoming EP they couldn’t even name the label for yet.

Inferious may have a name that suggests something low-status, something sacrificial. But after watching them level a converted church in New Kensington, and after listening to them talk about their scene with the easy confidence of people who have nothing to prove, I think the definition needs an update.

Check them out on all the streaming platforms. Catch them when they roll through your town on the next tour. And for the love of God, show up early.

You never know which opening band is going to blow your doors off.




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