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An Interview with Ben Gleason of Source by George Archibald for Empire Extreme

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An Interview with Ben Gleason of Source

Interviewed by: George Archibald

Colorado’s Source is breaking out across the country currently on tour with From Ashes to New, Hell Yeah, and In Flames. The band is an equal combination of hard rock, metal, and progressive rock with a mix of clean and dirty vocal styles. The band is a 3-piece consisting of Ben Gleason on guitars and vocals, Dan Crisafulli on bass, and George Octobous on drums. Source is also out promoting their new album, Return to Nothing, which was released earlier this year via Pavement Entertainment. I got a chance to sit and talk with Ben Gleason to learn more about this budding band.

GA: How about we start off with you telling Empire Extreme a little about the band?

BG: We are Source from Boulder, Co. We are a three-piece progressive metal rock band. People have made comparisons to Tool, Opeth, Mastodon… Those are the big ones but a lot of people say Tool, which is a huge compliment of course. We are on our third major tour now. We are out with From Ashes to New, Hell Yeah, and In Flames. We did the first show last night, and it was great! We have a new album out, Return to Nothing. You can pick that up at any music retailer. The album is doing well and we have received a lot of positive reviews. Empire Extreme gave us a good review. Things have been going super well for us and I am excited to see what happens after this tour.

GA: So how did Source get hooked up with Hell Yeah and In Flames for this tour?

BG: Our label Pavement Music, the vice president Tim King, got a message from HellYeah! asking for a support band for this tour. Tim said that they needed to take Source out on the road with them. That we were perfect for the tour package. They checked us out and were like, ‘yea this band is awesome, we would love to take them out.’ It has been a great opportunity and they have been tagging us on all their social media postings. They have been super friendly to us, a lot of them got to catch our set last night. We were all stoked about that. In Flames has been super nice as well. I missed it because I was of eating dinner but, during In Flames’s set they announced; ‘Source and From Ashes to New, please come hang out with us on our bus after the show. We want to be your friends!’ We thought that was the coolest thing. I am excited to get to know those guys, because their music is just unbelievably good, and the same with HellYeah!. It’s so much fun to watch Vinnie Paul play, and Chad Grey is amazing. Last night their crew said Chad was really feeling it, because last night he was just so into it. The way he was moving around last night, you can just tell he was so passionate about what he is doing.

GA: Source released Return to Nothing earlier this year, tell us about the album and a little about the recording process. Did anything stick out to you, anything you enjoyed about the process?

BG: Working with Jesse Obrien is always enjoyable, he is our engineer at Colorado Sound Studios. He is just so proficient at Protools, and recording. He always picks the right mic, always knows exactly what needs to get done, and what plugin needs to get used. It’s really fun to get a chance to record with him, because there is no uncertainty when it comes to getting the sound we wanted. He is a Jedi when it comes to reading our mind. The same goes for our producer Scott Wilson, he is the bass player for Tantric. Jesse and he were on some Jedi mind frequencies as well as myself. We were all kind of tapped into this thing where, we knew what needed to get done and it just automatically would be picked up by one of us. We would all have the same idea at the same time. The way that we all worked together was enjoyable. So, yea the writing and recording process was fun. Writing music is by far my greatest passion in life.

GA: Your writing style it kind of comes off to me like… you ever hear of the band The Contortionist? Their last two albums have kind of the same vibe, writing wise with the content.

BG: That is another band that has clean vocals, clean guitar parts, a broad range of sound. They have these beautiful interlude parts that show off their full range of talent. Source tends to lean more towards distortion; it’s the contrast (between distortion and clean) that we like, that gives the music so much impact. Talking about bands that we try emulate, Between the Buried and Me, you can see how broad their talent is.

GA: Ha-ha they basically wrote the book on, anything you can do we can do and do it better!

BG: (laughing) And here’s a polka song, go fuck yourself.

GA: What goes into your writing process? What influences do you tap when looking to make new music?

BG: My biggest influence must be the flotation tank, (isolation tank, sleep deprivation tanks). I own a float center out in Colorado. I have two tanks that we put people in. I use them all the time. I have been writing music forever, but once I started using the tanks…. The music I started writing for Source was when I started using those tanks. Something about floating inspires me, because I get in touch with my core being. I think the journey of your consciousness on a day to day basis, like from being focused on work stuff, and driving, and everything, you tend to get out of touch with your inner self. I like those tanks because you get back to your inner self, and I think that is the center of one’s inspiration. When I feel that I feel like I am always hearing music, and that is the sound of my true self. The float tank for me, does a better job of doing that then anything I have ever used.

GA: So, it is like sensory deprivation then?

BG: Sensory deprivation it is. You are just floating there in salt water. Nothing to smell, nothing to hear, nothing to feel, you are just wearing a bathing suit, and everything is the same temperature as your skin. There is no external sensory input coming in when you are in there. So, automatically your focus gets shifted inward. You start to work through all the stuff that is coming up in your life, stress or emotional issues; as you start to clear all that out, you tend to get back to that core self. That journey of shifting your focus from the outward to the inward and getting back to being self-aware to me is the most inspiring. I get to do that on almost a daily basis.

GA: I read on your site that you won the best heavy metal song, for ‘Forgiveness’ in the Akademia Music Awards. What was it like receiving the notification, and how did it feel for the band to be selected?

BG: It was very cool, that happened right after we released our demo. We put out our demo which has the songs, ‘Forgiveness, The Serpent, and Veil of Doubt (which is the bonus track on the new album).’ They found us on Reverb Nation and told us ‘hey you guys won.’ It was awesome hearing that we like winning awards.

GA: What is next for Source after this tour? Are you planning on coming back East again?

BG: We are trying to set something up to get back on the road as soon as possible. On a tour like this you want to try to come back, and hit the places that you hit before, so you can stay fresh in people’s minds. We just started working with Artery Global, which is a great booking agency. They are working super hard on getting us some good shows. I am excited to see what comes of that. We are also trying to get back to the south, we did extremely well down there when we toured with Trapt. So many people are yelling at us, “why don’t you come back to the south, we love y’all?” We love y’all too. It’s hard when you are not in control of booking shows, you just go with the flow, and hope you make everyone happy along the way.

GA: What gear are you currently using for your live rig?

BG: I just got endorsed with Paul Reed Smith Guitars. It is a huge dream of mine, that has come true. It is one of the greatest honors I could ever receive. Dan our bass player just got endorsed with Warwick Basses. It is a huge honor that Dan is now a part of that team, they make the best basses in the world. I am also endorsed with Stringjoy Strings. Stringjoy sells their strings direct online, cutting out the middle man. They put out such a great product that is warm, bright and full, giving a player lots of tone. It is such a joy to play them. We are endorsed with Custom Litt, they do our led displays that we have placed on all our gear. We are also endorsed with All Clear Audio, who does our in-ear monitors. We got some nice in-ears for this tour from them. They were custom molded so they sit perfectly and sound great. I also use a Paul Reed Smith Archon for my amplifier, and I run that through a Mesa cabinet. Dan is running Ampeg for his amplifiers. George is using DW Drums, and Paiste cymbals.

GA: Anything else you want to add?

BG: Check out our new video for, ‘Memories of Yesterday’. We have been getting some play on Axis TV. We are also on Indiemusic TV which you can find on Amazon Fire, or anywhere you can stream music videos. If you get a chance to catch us on tour, it’s going to be an amazing time. I’m just really excited to see what happens from doing this tour, and where we will be going as a band after. I think this is going to be the breaking point, where we will be getting a bigger fan base so I am very excited.

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EIHWAR COME TO BALTIMORE TO BRING THE VIKING WAR TRANCE

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IVE BEEN SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THE UPCOMING TOUR FOR EIHWAR. I FOUND THEM ON THE INTERNET AND THEY BLEW ME AWAY WITH THEIR VIKING/FOLK/PAGAN MUSIC MIXED WITH ELECTRONIC. EIHWAR WILL BE COMING TO THE RECHER IN TOWNSON MARYLAND ON AUGUST 30TH. EMPIRE EXTREME GOT TO ASK THE DUO A FEW QUESTIONS BEFORE THE SHOW.

ARE YOU EXCITED ABOUT DOING YOUR FIRST AMERICAN TOUR? ANY AMERICAN THINGS OR PLACES YOU WANT TO EXPLORE?

ASRUNN: For now, I have to admit I’m still completely stunned. I’m not excited or imagining it yet at all. Right now, I feel like I’m about to go to a country that only exists in TV shows, so I’m still kind of wading through disbelief.

Once I’m actually there, though, I’ll probably start talking way too fast and way too loud, and I’ll want to go way too everywhere.

HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN VIKING WAR TRANCE AS A GENRE OF MUSIC?

MARK: Viking War Trance is basically what happens when you mix Nordic folk influences, tribal rhythms, electronic music and something much more primitive and aggressive. We wanted music that makes you want to dance, fight and enter some kind of trance at the same time. So instead of trying to fit into an existing genre, we just called it Viking War Trance. And about the word “war”: it’s not a war against others, but a war against ourselves. Against our rigidity, our limiting beliefs, our fears. Victory is letting go. 

WHAT CAN FANS EXPECT WHEN SEEING THE BAND LIVE?

MARK: Our concerts are much more physical than people sometimes expect from listening to the albums. We want people to dance, scream, jump, crowd surf and completely lose themselves for an hour. It’s somewhere between a concert, a rave and a pagan ritual, but with a lot of joy. “Joyful chaos” is the word that Asrunn often use.

WHAT WAS IT LIKE PLAYING HELLFEST AND WACKEN?

ASRUNN: It’s basically spending an entire hour on stage thinking, “Seriously, what the hell am I doing here? This makes absolutely no sense,” and then, the second it’s over, thinking, “Fuck, that was WAY TOO SHORT!”, hahahahaha!

In reality, it’s a mix of intense concentration and this explosion of joy inside when we manage to bring such a huge crowd into our madness with us. It’s as if, all of a sudden, we’re no longer men and women, but one human tribe, united by joy and raw energy.

HOW DO YOU FEEL THAT YOUR STYLE OF VIKING MUSIC AND IMAGE DIFFERS FROM OTHER VIKING AND FOLK METAL?

MARK: What sets us apart from folk metal is simply that we’re not metal. We don’t use distorted guitars or acoustic drums. As for pagan folk, I think the differences are pretty obvious too. Most pagan bands take a fairly ceremonial approach, resulting in atmospheric, ambient music. Some of them are even very serious. From our point of view, seriousness is a symptom of bad digestion. We prefer to fool around.

As for the peace you find in atmospheric ritual music, we don’t know much about it. Asrunn, our leader, is nothing like a priestess in a linen dress singing with butterflies in the forest. She’s living anger. Our music is joyful and brutal, primitive techno made to dance to until the end of the night.

The biggest difference is also, and perhaps above all, harmonic, in the musicological sense. With ancient instruments, it’s difficult to modulate frequently or to play every note in every octave. We use machines, and that gives us much more freedom to create melodies and chord progressions that evolve constantly and are far more pop-oriented than ancient instruments would normally allow.

DREAM TOUR: YOU CAN GO ON TOUR WITH ANY 2 OTHER BANDS, WHO DO YOU CHOOSE?

ASRUNN: MmmmdzgebhfugzFDBZueisfg that’s WAY too hard to choooooose HAAAAA! I’d say……….. NIN and… well, Sofia Isella, lately. She’s tooooooo good to be true.

MARK: The Prodigy and Peter Gabriel

FAVORITE GAME OF THRONES CHARACTER? 

MARK: Don’t know, but I like the soundtrack.

ASRUNN: Bree Van De Kamp.

IF YOU COULD RESURRECT ONE HISTORIC VIKING WHO WOULD IT BE? 

MARK: Honestly, my memories from that time aren’t clear enough for me to really know. But I was very fond of the monk Eadwig of Durham, and I’d be curious — and happy — to see him again.

ASRUNN: Lagertha, to prove to Mark that he’s wrong when he says she had bigger boobs than me.

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EMPIRE EXTREME GOT TO INTERVIEW KURT DEIMER ABOUT THE NEW ALBUM “A GROG IS BORN” HIM WORKING WITH GEOFF TATE AND JOSH TODD AND BEING KILLED BY MICHAEL MEYERS AND HORROR MOVIES

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Inferious preform live at Preserving Underground April 2026 By Josh Drespling

by Josh Drespling


I was at Preserving Underground to cover Filth and Resistor. I was all set with my photo pass and cameras at the ready. And then this young band exploded onto the stage. No grand entrance, no intro music, no flashy lights—just a wall of noise from the first guitar chord and a guttural growl that seemed to come from somewhere below the floorboards. I was blown away. Thoroughly impressed.

This band was Inferious, out of Dayton, Ohio. If you look up the word “inferious,” most dictionaries will tell you it means something low-status, submissive, or fit for sacrifice. But this Ohio metalcore outfit Inferious has spent the last several years proving that definition couldn’t be more wrong. Tonight in the basement of a converted church, Inferious delivered raw, sweat-soaked fury to all who were smart enough to show up early.

Before their set was even half over, I made up my mind that I had to talk to them and let our readers know about this band. Here is how it went:

Empire: This was the first time I have ever seen you guys. I’ve heard your name before but never had the chance to listen. The show tonight was freaking awesome. I loved it from the first few notes. The vocals and the guitar tone just hit ya right in the chest.

Since I am a new fan, can you give me the nickel tour of how you came together and I understand you are from Dayton, Ohio.

Shaun O’Shaughnessy – Guitarist: I live in Dayton, and the original band members all formed in Dayton, but it was kind of a collage of multiple band folks. People from the southwest Ohio area. Gabe [McQueen – vocals] and I were there at the beginning, and then through some line-up changes, this is our current and most solid touring line-up so far with Cody and Kyle. They also are from the area and have been in several bands. So they were always in the same circles, at the same shows, talking to the same people. It all worked out one day.

Empire: Given that, it seems like there is a healthy music scene in Dayton. Are there any good clubs, any fields to play in?

Shaun: It’s hard to say Dayton, Ohio, specifically so much as just southwest Ohio because of the way that Dayton, Columbus, and Cincinnati form like a little triangle. You’re only an hour apart from each other. So we can get into that larger music scene pretty easily. So Dayton itself has venues, but the whole collective area has stuff. There’s some house venues, like Gnome House, there’s Bob’s, but then Cincinnati has Madison Live, and Design Collective [DSGN CLLCTV] was doing shows for a while, but I think they got in trouble.
Cody: Yeah, it some code stuff.

Empire: I think there are a couple decent places in Akron, and even across the border is Huntington, WV?

Shaun: Yeah, that area still does have sick stuff. It’s just farther away from our personal local scene. Cleveland is kind of separate from us too.

Cody: That’s not necessarily our scene, but there is such a good underground local scene from the Huntington / Athens / Charleston area. Shout to Feverwar.

Shaun: We were just at the Grog Shop [outside Cleveland].

Cody: We were at the New Foundry not too long ago.

Empire: Oh, yeah, like upstairs?

Shaun: No, it is Foundry’s new location.

Empire: I’ve not been there.

Shaun: It looks basically like the old one, but it’s new.

Empire: You mentioned the Grog Shop. Were you guys there with Filth and Resistor?

Shaun: Yeah, we’ve been on tour with Filth and Resistor. The first half of the tour had Two-Piece on it; we missed them, but now Mono’s [Monochromatic Black] on for the second half, and they’re homies.

Gabe and I toured with them in Inferious a couple years ago with band called AMTAE, and Monochromatic Black. So, those are long-time homies as well. So, we’ve known Tanya [Elizabeth (Beickert) – Vocals] and Eddie [DeCesare – Drums] for a long time, and Pierce [Akers – Guitar] is our new best friend as well.

Empire: So, it’s just like a big hang for you guys.

Shaun: Yeah, all the homies are back. We’ve toured with Filth before too; we were out with them on the Oceano tour, and then actually a year ago, I think like right now, like today a year ago, we toured with Filth also. So, it’s Filth and Oceano, and then Filth again.

So, it’s been fun to have a full circle of friend hangs, and every night’s been sick. The show turnouts have been amazing, and then just hanging out with all our friends has been amazing.

Empire: That’s part of what makes it fun. Whether you have 50 people or 1000, you have that camaraderie and shared experience.

Empire: So do you currently have an album out? Where do you guys stand with that?

Gabe: We have music out everywhere, on all music platforms: Apple Music, Spotify, Google Play, and YouTube Music. Shit, if you even got to rip that shit, YouTube to MP4, do it, man!

Shaun: We got your back. We got three full lengths and an EP. We are working on a new EP with a label we’re signed to that we’ll announce here soon, but that’s going to be really exciting stuff, and just stoked to be able to get that out soon.

Empire: Cool. So don’t say the label name, but your deal is in place, and then the new album in the fall, winter, spring?

Shaun: Yeah, the EP should be coming out sometime this year, if all the schedules align and everything, but that’s in the works.

Empire: Cool. Filth tour, what’s after that?

Shaun: Finishing up the EP. Record release cycle, and then hopefully touring in support of that. Whether it’s co-headlining with somebody or doing some more support stuff, we’re down for whatever. Hopefully we can fill up the rest of the year.

You know, touring is hard financially, so while we’re able to still make ends meet on the road, it’s hard to pay all the bills, so we’ve got to go home, stack our bread back up, and then be ready to go back out again.

Empire: I understand. Is this your first time in Pittsburgh?

Shaun: We’ve actually played Preserving. This is at least the fifth time.

We played the DIY room, we played this room, this orientation, we played this room when it was facing the other direction. AJ, the owner, has been good to us. He is a rad dude.

Empire: AJ is great.

Shaun: The record shop and merch store upstairs is sick, I just bought a shirt, a Never Ending Game shirt, because we have to do a laundry soon, and I bought a shirt to extend one more day to get through.

Empire: Anything you guys want to add, anything going on? Shameless plugs?

Shaun: This has been a kind of sick tour, because I think we’ve all got to see family members. Gabe’s dad dropped him off, so we got to see Gabe’s dad. We got to go get breakfast with my mom and some family, I saw my aunt. Cody’s mom let us stay at her crib, and we got to hang out with her and his family. Kyle’s family came out last night and hung out, and that was pretty sick, so it’s been a good time.

Empire: Kyle hasn’t said anything, so tell me about your family coming out and seeing the show.

Kyle: I mean, it was my sister’s first time seeing us live.

Empire: What did she have to say? I mean, I’m sure she knew the style.

Kyle: Oh, yeah, she’s conditioned to it.

Empire: She’s not like a Britney Spears fan at a hardcore show?

Kyle: No, no, she’s by far not a normie, but close to it.

Empire: Thank you, gentlemen. That’s all I have today. Appreciate it, and thanks for the show. It was great; loved it.

Shaun: See you next time.

Before that night at Preserving Underground, I’ll be honest: Inferious was just a name on a show flyer. Another opening band before the acts I actually came to see.

That’s the thing about this level of heavy music. The headliners get the lights, the longer set, and the crowd that’s already warmed up. But the openers? They get twenty-five minutes, a soundcheck that barely counts, and a room full of people who are mostly looking at their phones. Inferious didn’t just overcome that. They incinerated it.

What struck me most, sitting down with Shaun, Gabe, Cody, and Kyle after the show, was how unpretentious they were. No egos. No rock-star posturing. Just four guys from southwest Ohio who’ve been grinding in the same circles, playing the same basement venues, and slowly building something real. They talked about the small venues with the same reverence other bands reserve for stadiums. They shouted out Feverwar. They bought merch from the shop upstairs to make it through one more day on the road.

That’s the part you don’t see from the crowd. The financial grind. The van trouble. The “stack our bread back up” reality of modern touring. And yet, here they were—genuinely stoked to have seen family members at shows, genuinely grateful for AJ at Preserving keeping the doors open for underground bands, and genuinely excited about an upcoming EP they couldn’t even name the label for yet.

Inferious may have a name that suggests something low-status, something sacrificial. But after watching them level a converted church in New Kensington, and after listening to them talk about their scene with the easy confidence of people who have nothing to prove, I think the definition needs an update.

Check them out on all the streaming platforms. Catch them when they roll through your town on the next tour. And for the love of God, show up early.

You never know which opening band is going to blow your doors off.




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