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Interview with Edsel Dope
Interview with Edsel Dope
By Ron Senyo
I have been excited about this opportunity since I first heard that Dope was assembling a reunion tour with all of the classic lineup. This set of guys (Edsel, Racci, Acey, and Virus) have not played together for over a decade and with the release of an album of all new material and the release of a live album the energy and excitement around this band is at heights that they have not been in a long time.
Tonight Dope came out in classic form, opening their set with “Violence” which threw the crowd into a complete frenzy. Edsel clad in all black including his baseball hat kept warning the security that the crowd was going to get rowdy and not to be dicks. He told them to let the fans be unless someone in the crowd was being an asshole, and that person won’t know cause he’s was the asshole.
Edsel, Racci, Acey, and Virus took us on a journey through the years hitting on the classics from all their albums. At one point Edsel exclaimed “ I’m going to play you the stupidest song you’ve ever heard and you’re gonna love it” as the band dove into there version of Dead or Alive‘s “Spin Me Right Round”.
This lineup worked really well together, they were tight and it really seemed as though they were truly enjoying playing with each other. Seeing that makes me hope that this line up sticks together and makes some more great music.
As Edsel had warned it got a little crazy. During their set someone was being that asshole that he had mentioned. It took about five security guards and some help from Motograter’s drummer to forcefully eject this dude. However the antics didn’t end there. One of Dope’s road crew kept making Edsel laugh so much so that Edsel had to block him from his line of sight using his hat just to stop from laughing. At one point, drummer, Racci had his feet up on the drums and was drinking a beer while still playing. Acey somehow managed to get his guitar stuck in the ceiling and at the end of their set where it hung until a crew member grabbed it.
Overall was one of the best Dope shows that I have ever seen and the crowd was pack into the Fishhead Cantiana. I had the privilege of hanging out and asking a few questions to the man himself Edsel who we have been joking around for years about getting this interview done. Today it finally happened.
Empire Extreme: How has the Dope reunion been going thus far, and how that all came about?
Edsel: I thought you weren’t gonna ask me the usual questions? (Both laugh)
(Earlier I told Edsel I like asking odd questions and he was excited and I started off with this one)
Edsel: It’s good! It’s not much different for me man. It’s not like I don’t’ play with theses guys on a regular basis. I play with Virus all the time. I just back from the U.K. with Coal Chamber where Racci played drums and Acey played bass. Nick was on guitar too because Virus was busy. But we hadn’t played since we went to Russia and played that one show. Everybody was available to do this tour. I love these guys but every time we do a tour I think we have a good lineup. It always feels like Dope to me, but I’m not sure when the four of us will be able to do it all again.
Empire: Yeah, cause it’s been a few years since we have seen this lineup together
Edsel: Yeah 12 years.
Empire: How was it playing in Russia?
Edsel: Russia is great! This will be our fourth time there. The fans are great and get really excited about us. It’s just one of those weird anomalies where we have no record label there, no radio, and no support. But the phone rang and they wanted us to come over. They said it was gonna be big over there. We were like OK, we will see. We go over there and the shows were big, the fans knew all the words, and it was fucking crazy. It’s exciting and it’s a place we look forward too.
Empire: How are the fans responding to finally having the new album “Blood Money” come out?
Edsel: Everybody seems to be really excited! I think it’s just a culmination of everything right now and it feels to everybody that we were being procrastinators. There for quite a while I was concentrating on other things, re-prioritizing my life. For so many years the priority was always Dope. I would put out the Dope records and go on tour, and repeat. Then I got to a point in my life where I thought that my life was kind of empty because this was all at that I do. I needed to focus on other things and I needed to mature in different ways that didn’t have to do with the band. I think the fans are getting a lot now, which I think they’re excited about. They just got a live record. They are also getting the first full tour in a very long while. They are also getting Blood Money Part One and all that is coming out in a short amount of time. They seemed stoked about it. They’re going to go out and get it put it in their iPods and then jam to it for a few months.
Empire: I remember when you talked at shows that everybody wants to hear all the old stuff but they complain about not having any new material
Edsel: That’s just me fucking with them (both laugh) and I understand why they want new material. They want new songs from the band that they like and to hear new things that the bands done. But of course they want to come to the shows and hear all the old shit and they always will. I think that anybody who really likes this band and they want a treasure should go get the live album. It’s basically a greatest hits album with 21 of the songs that we all want to hear and it’s recorded really fucking well!
Empire: What was it like doing the videos for every single one of the songs on Group Therapy album?
Edsel: It was a lot of work ! .. and, well… Beyoncé got all the credit for doing that shit first, but I did it 10 years before her! It was cool. It was us trying to do something different. At the time we were in a tough spot in the bands career. Sony had just evaporated on us and the band was really effected. It was really a horrible thing that happened to us. We had so much success with the first record and did so much touring with some of the biggest bands in the world Slipknot, Coal Chamber, Fear Factory, and Static X. The last tour Dope did for the first album was direct support for Kid Rock. That was huge!
For the second record we recorded the album and the label was super excited about it. They loved the songs. But we knew we were coming out swinging hard with the tracks “Die MF Die” and “Take Your Best Shot”. We were going to lay the ground work with those but they ultimately went to radio with “Now or Never”. It was about two months before the record came out the World Trade Center fell. We were with Sony music, a company that had Michael Jackson at the time. They had so much money along with a history of abandoning and running from things when they felt it was a bad look for the company.
After the towers fell, they had this band called Dope with songs like “Die MF Die”… That was it. People don’t realize that this band went from being on the verge of that next level, to doing one tour on the Life album. We had all of our support disappear, management gone, label gone, booking agent gone. No opportunities! When that happens to a band in this business a lot of people don’t understand it either. No one on the outside looks for details, they just go “Oh Dope just got dropped from Sony. Hmm that’s probably damaged goods, we should probably stay away from that.”
Following that it was really hard for the band to even get any shows. We ended up making the Group Therapy record independently and having it sell really poorly because nobody knew it came out. We then spent two years struggling to stay on road and we released the American Apathy record which ultimately sold more than Life despite being released by Sony. That was really our second birth and where the industry took two steps back and said maybe we should let them back in because they withstood all that darkness they must really have fans.
Empire: Since you did a cover of NWA’s “ Fuck the Police” have you heard any feedback from NWA about it?
Edsel: No man. I’ve never met any of those guys unfortunately. I have not had the opportunity to meet them. Not sure if they even know if our version even exists. I have no way of knowing.
Empire: How was it working with Zak Wylde for the track “Addiction” on the No Regrets album?
Edesel: Zak was great. He was super gracious. It was cool. He was able to lay down a bunch of guitar solos for us. I’m kinda of a wizard at manipulating stuff and making it into what I want. The leads that he played, I built them up and put it together how I wanted. Once it had the flow I felt was right I sent it to him. He was like “Dude this is great, I don’t even remember playing it like that”. I said “You didn’t play it like that”. He was like “Ohh”. It was cool he really gave me a lot of good stuff to work with.
Empire: How was it playing ICP’s “Gathering of The Juggalos” I know you have done it a few times?
Edsel: It’s another really cool experience. It’s a very different fan base. It’s very a culty, cool underworld, if you will. They has always reacted positively to us even though we’re a lot heavier than many of the bands there. The Clowns and the Juggalos have seemed to embraced the Dope vibe. I’ve always been grateful for that. I wouldn’t consider myself a Juggalo but I would consider myself a Juggalo supporter. I support their unity and collective vibe.
Empire: If you could bring back any musician from the dead who would you bring back?
Edsel: What would I do with them? (Both laugh)
Empire: Like have them back recording making music and what not.
Edsel: Well, for selfish reasons I would bring back Elvis. He was just a bad mother fucker. I think Prince will be missed the most, because he was so active with writing, not just for himself but other artists. I feel the amount of amazing songs that Prince put into the world is gonna be pretty hard for anybody to beat. Elvis, John Lennon, Prince those guys are untouchable.
Empire: I saw back in the day that you and Ginger Fish (Marilyn Manson, Rob Zombie) had an apartment together?
Edsel: Yeah. Well, me and Ginger were best friends as kids. We lived with each other, we moved across the country together. We are still best friends to this day. I’ve known him for 25 years.
Empire: Any crazy stories with you guys before you both got where you are?
Edsel: I wouldn’t say crazy stories. We were just young kids, 20 year old dudes. Both playing drums, both working shitty jobs. Both talking about how we’re gonna make it. It’s pretty crazy that we both made it, for all intents and purposes in a very different ways. I’m very envious of what Ginger has. Me being a drummer at heart my whole life, but then coming to realizing that with my mentality it was going to be very hard for me to make it and rely on someone else being the [main] guy. That’s one of the main reasons for me transitioning into a singer, guitar player, and leader of a band. Ginger has been part of two of the coolest and most iconic bands ever. He’s on stage playing huge sold out shows every night with pyro and all that stuff. I would love to have Gingers life. But at the same time Ginger looks at me and says “Dude you get to make all the rules and do what you want when you want. It’s your band, you go on tour it’s yours, I’m in Rob Zombie and I love it but it’s Robs.” We have this fun dichotomy between us. I would love to be where he is and he would love to be where I am. But we’re the same dudes and when we hang out together it’s like time has stood still and we’re back in Florida.
Empire: Anything else you want to say to the fans?
Edsel: Hope everybody picks up the new album and gives it a few spins and loves it. Dope is Dope man! We’ve been established for a really long time and the band is going to continue to expand. When you come see Dope we play the classics and we sound like we should sound.
I just do what makes sense in my heart and my soul. I express what’s really true to me and where I’m at in my life. I hope fans of the band are on the same page.
And just like that after 15 years it was finally over and we had our interview with Edsel and hope that in the future it won’t take as long to do another.
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EIHWAR COME TO BALTIMORE TO BRING THE VIKING WAR TRANCE

IVE BEEN SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THE UPCOMING TOUR FOR EIHWAR. I FOUND THEM ON THE INTERNET AND THEY BLEW ME AWAY WITH THEIR VIKING/FOLK/PAGAN MUSIC MIXED WITH ELECTRONIC. EIHWAR WILL BE COMING TO THE RECHER IN TOWNSON MARYLAND ON AUGUST 30TH. EMPIRE EXTREME GOT TO ASK THE DUO A FEW QUESTIONS BEFORE THE SHOW.
ARE YOU EXCITED ABOUT DOING YOUR FIRST AMERICAN TOUR? ANY AMERICAN THINGS OR PLACES YOU WANT TO EXPLORE?
ASRUNN: For now, I have to admit I’m still completely stunned. I’m not excited or imagining it yet at all. Right now, I feel like I’m about to go to a country that only exists in TV shows, so I’m still kind of wading through disbelief.
Once I’m actually there, though, I’ll probably start talking way too fast and way too loud, and I’ll want to go way too everywhere.
HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN VIKING WAR TRANCE AS A GENRE OF MUSIC?
MARK: Viking War Trance is basically what happens when you mix Nordic folk influences, tribal rhythms, electronic music and something much more primitive and aggressive. We wanted music that makes you want to dance, fight and enter some kind of trance at the same time. So instead of trying to fit into an existing genre, we just called it Viking War Trance. And about the word “war”: it’s not a war against others, but a war against ourselves. Against our rigidity, our limiting beliefs, our fears. Victory is letting go.
WHAT CAN FANS EXPECT WHEN SEEING THE BAND LIVE?
MARK: Our concerts are much more physical than people sometimes expect from listening to the albums. We want people to dance, scream, jump, crowd surf and completely lose themselves for an hour. It’s somewhere between a concert, a rave and a pagan ritual, but with a lot of joy. “Joyful chaos” is the word that Asrunn often use.

WHAT WAS IT LIKE PLAYING HELLFEST AND WACKEN?
ASRUNN: It’s basically spending an entire hour on stage thinking, “Seriously, what the hell am I doing here? This makes absolutely no sense,” and then, the second it’s over, thinking, “Fuck, that was WAY TOO SHORT!”, hahahahaha!
In reality, it’s a mix of intense concentration and this explosion of joy inside when we manage to bring such a huge crowd into our madness with us. It’s as if, all of a sudden, we’re no longer men and women, but one human tribe, united by joy and raw energy.

HOW DO YOU FEEL THAT YOUR STYLE OF VIKING MUSIC AND IMAGE DIFFERS FROM OTHER VIKING AND FOLK METAL?
MARK: What sets us apart from folk metal is simply that we’re not metal. We don’t use distorted guitars or acoustic drums. As for pagan folk, I think the differences are pretty obvious too. Most pagan bands take a fairly ceremonial approach, resulting in atmospheric, ambient music. Some of them are even very serious. From our point of view, seriousness is a symptom of bad digestion. We prefer to fool around.
As for the peace you find in atmospheric ritual music, we don’t know much about it. Asrunn, our leader, is nothing like a priestess in a linen dress singing with butterflies in the forest. She’s living anger. Our music is joyful and brutal, primitive techno made to dance to until the end of the night.
The biggest difference is also, and perhaps above all, harmonic, in the musicological sense. With ancient instruments, it’s difficult to modulate frequently or to play every note in every octave. We use machines, and that gives us much more freedom to create melodies and chord progressions that evolve constantly and are far more pop-oriented than ancient instruments would normally allow.

DREAM TOUR: YOU CAN GO ON TOUR WITH ANY 2 OTHER BANDS, WHO DO YOU CHOOSE?
ASRUNN: MmmmdzgebhfugzFDBZueisfg that’s WAY too hard to choooooose HAAAAA! I’d say……….. NIN and… well, Sofia Isella, lately. She’s tooooooo good to be true.
MARK: The Prodigy and Peter Gabriel
FAVORITE GAME OF THRONES CHARACTER?
MARK: Don’t know, but I like the soundtrack.
ASRUNN: Bree Van De Kamp.
IF YOU COULD RESURRECT ONE HISTORIC VIKING WHO WOULD IT BE?
MARK: Honestly, my memories from that time aren’t clear enough for me to really know. But I was very fond of the monk Eadwig of Durham, and I’d be curious — and happy — to see him again.
ASRUNN: Lagertha, to prove to Mark that he’s wrong when he says she had bigger boobs than me.

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INTERVIEW WITH KURT DEIMER

EMPIRE EXTREME GOT TO INTERVIEW KURT DEIMER ABOUT THE NEW ALBUM “A GROG IS BORN” HIM WORKING WITH GEOFF TATE AND JOSH TODD AND BEING KILLED BY MICHAEL MEYERS AND HORROR MOVIES

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Inferious—Interview
by Josh Drespling
I was at Preserving Underground to cover Filth and Resistor. I was all set with my photo pass and cameras at the ready. And then this young band exploded onto the stage. No grand entrance, no intro music, no flashy lights—just a wall of noise from the first guitar chord and a guttural growl that seemed to come from somewhere below the floorboards. I was blown away. Thoroughly impressed.
This band was Inferious, out of Dayton, Ohio. If you look up the word “inferious,” most dictionaries will tell you it means something low-status, submissive, or fit for sacrifice. But this Ohio metalcore outfit Inferious has spent the last several years proving that definition couldn’t be more wrong. Tonight in the basement of a converted church, Inferious delivered raw, sweat-soaked fury to all who were smart enough to show up early.
Before their set was even half over, I made up my mind that I had to talk to them and let our readers know about this band. Here is how it went:



Empire: This was the first time I have ever seen you guys. I’ve heard your name before but never had the chance to listen. The show tonight was freaking awesome. I loved it from the first few notes. The vocals and the guitar tone just hit ya right in the chest.
Since I am a new fan, can you give me the nickel tour of how you came together and I understand you are from Dayton, Ohio.
Shaun O’Shaughnessy – Guitarist: I live in Dayton, and the original band members all formed in Dayton, but it was kind of a collage of multiple band folks. People from the southwest Ohio area. Gabe [McQueen – vocals] and I were there at the beginning, and then through some line-up changes, this is our current and most solid touring line-up so far with Cody and Kyle. They also are from the area and have been in several bands. So they were always in the same circles, at the same shows, talking to the same people. It all worked out one day.
Empire: Given that, it seems like there is a healthy music scene in Dayton. Are there any good clubs, any fields to play in?
Shaun: It’s hard to say Dayton, Ohio, specifically so much as just southwest Ohio because of the way that Dayton, Columbus, and Cincinnati form like a little triangle. You’re only an hour apart from each other. So we can get into that larger music scene pretty easily. So Dayton itself has venues, but the whole collective area has stuff. There’s some house venues, like Gnome House, there’s Bob’s, but then Cincinnati has Madison Live, and Design Collective [DSGN CLLCTV] was doing shows for a while, but I think they got in trouble.
Cody: Yeah, it some code stuff.
Empire: I think there are a couple decent places in Akron, and even across the border is Huntington, WV?
Shaun: Yeah, that area still does have sick stuff. It’s just farther away from our personal local scene. Cleveland is kind of separate from us too.
Cody: That’s not necessarily our scene, but there is such a good underground local scene from the Huntington / Athens / Charleston area. Shout to Feverwar.
Shaun: We were just at the Grog Shop [outside Cleveland].
Cody: We were at the New Foundry not too long ago.
Empire: Oh, yeah, like upstairs?
Shaun: No, it is Foundry’s new location.
Empire: I’ve not been there.
Shaun: It looks basically like the old one, but it’s new.

Empire: You mentioned the Grog Shop. Were you guys there with Filth and Resistor?
Shaun: Yeah, we’ve been on tour with Filth and Resistor. The first half of the tour had Two-Piece on it; we missed them, but now Mono’s [Monochromatic Black] on for the second half, and they’re homies.
Gabe and I toured with them in Inferious a couple years ago with band called AMTAE, and Monochromatic Black. So, those are long-time homies as well. So, we’ve known Tanya [Elizabeth (Beickert) – Vocals] and Eddie [DeCesare – Drums] for a long time, and Pierce [Akers – Guitar] is our new best friend as well.
Empire: So, it’s just like a big hang for you guys.
Shaun: Yeah, all the homies are back. We’ve toured with Filth before too; we were out with them on the Oceano tour, and then actually a year ago, I think like right now, like today a year ago, we toured with Filth also. So, it’s Filth and Oceano, and then Filth again.
So, it’s been fun to have a full circle of friend hangs, and every night’s been sick. The show turnouts have been amazing, and then just hanging out with all our friends has been amazing.
Empire: That’s part of what makes it fun. Whether you have 50 people or 1000, you have that camaraderie and shared experience.



Empire: So do you currently have an album out? Where do you guys stand with that?
Gabe: We have music out everywhere, on all music platforms: Apple Music, Spotify, Google Play, and YouTube Music. Shit, if you even got to rip that shit, YouTube to MP4, do it, man!
Shaun: We got your back. We got three full lengths and an EP. We are working on a new EP with a label we’re signed to that we’ll announce here soon, but that’s going to be really exciting stuff, and just stoked to be able to get that out soon.
Empire: Cool. So don’t say the label name, but your deal is in place, and then the new album in the fall, winter, spring?
Shaun: Yeah, the EP should be coming out sometime this year, if all the schedules align and everything, but that’s in the works.
Empire: Cool. Filth tour, what’s after that?
Shaun: Finishing up the EP. Record release cycle, and then hopefully touring in support of that. Whether it’s co-headlining with somebody or doing some more support stuff, we’re down for whatever. Hopefully we can fill up the rest of the year.
You know, touring is hard financially, so while we’re able to still make ends meet on the road, it’s hard to pay all the bills, so we’ve got to go home, stack our bread back up, and then be ready to go back out again.
Empire: I understand. Is this your first time in Pittsburgh?
Shaun: We’ve actually played Preserving. This is at least the fifth time.
We played the DIY room, we played this room, this orientation, we played this room when it was facing the other direction. AJ, the owner, has been good to us. He is a rad dude.
Empire: AJ is great.
Shaun: The record shop and merch store upstairs is sick, I just bought a shirt, a Never Ending Game shirt, because we have to do a laundry soon, and I bought a shirt to extend one more day to get through.

Empire: Anything you guys want to add, anything going on? Shameless plugs?
Shaun: This has been a kind of sick tour, because I think we’ve all got to see family members. Gabe’s dad dropped him off, so we got to see Gabe’s dad. We got to go get breakfast with my mom and some family, I saw my aunt. Cody’s mom let us stay at her crib, and we got to hang out with her and his family. Kyle’s family came out last night and hung out, and that was pretty sick, so it’s been a good time.
Empire: Kyle hasn’t said anything, so tell me about your family coming out and seeing the show.
Kyle: I mean, it was my sister’s first time seeing us live.
Empire: What did she have to say? I mean, I’m sure she knew the style.
Kyle: Oh, yeah, she’s conditioned to it.
Empire: She’s not like a Britney Spears fan at a hardcore show?
Kyle: No, no, she’s by far not a normie, but close to it.
Empire: Thank you, gentlemen. That’s all I have today. Appreciate it, and thanks for the show. It was great; loved it.
Shaun: See you next time.


Before that night at Preserving Underground, I’ll be honest: Inferious was just a name on a show flyer. Another opening band before the acts I actually came to see.
That’s the thing about this level of heavy music. The headliners get the lights, the longer set, and the crowd that’s already warmed up. But the openers? They get twenty-five minutes, a soundcheck that barely counts, and a room full of people who are mostly looking at their phones. Inferious didn’t just overcome that. They incinerated it.
What struck me most, sitting down with Shaun, Gabe, Cody, and Kyle after the show, was how unpretentious they were. No egos. No rock-star posturing. Just four guys from southwest Ohio who’ve been grinding in the same circles, playing the same basement venues, and slowly building something real. They talked about the small venues with the same reverence other bands reserve for stadiums. They shouted out Feverwar. They bought merch from the shop upstairs to make it through one more day on the road.
That’s the part you don’t see from the crowd. The financial grind. The van trouble. The “stack our bread back up” reality of modern touring. And yet, here they were—genuinely stoked to have seen family members at shows, genuinely grateful for AJ at Preserving keeping the doors open for underground bands, and genuinely excited about an upcoming EP they couldn’t even name the label for yet.
Inferious may have a name that suggests something low-status, something sacrificial. But after watching them level a converted church in New Kensington, and after listening to them talk about their scene with the easy confidence of people who have nothing to prove, I think the definition needs an update.
Check them out on all the streaming platforms. Catch them when they roll through your town on the next tour. And for the love of God, show up early.
You never know which opening band is going to blow your doors off.
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