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An interview with Amir Derakh, Ryan Shuck, Bidi Cobra and Alex Gonzales
Interview and Photos by: George Archibald

​As many people may say when they first encounter the band, “Who the Fuck is Julien-K?” well they are in for a treat. Julien-K was built after the fall out of Orgy and has deep roots in the late 90’s early 2000 music scene, having connections with Korn and Chester Bennington. Founding members Ryan Shuck and Amir Derakh were looking to do music after Orgy wound down and began writing. Soon they would hit the world with Death to Analog, a dark opus of electronic and hard rock music that would have many fans flocking. It is this die hard following that has helped the band crowdfund their way to making further albums California Noir, and Time Capsule. Currently Julien-K is on the road with Stone Temple Pilots, Bush and The Cult for the Revolution 3 tour, while writing their next album Harmonic Disruptor. Through all the chaos I was able to get to sit with Amir Derakh, Ryan Shuck, Bidi Cobra and Alex Gonzales of Julien-K and discuss touring, the music business, and their inventive writing process.
GA: How about we start with in your own words how the band came to be.
RS:
We came to be from the ashes of Orgy. Orgy has to be the most successful music project that we have ever done. Both Amir and I have been in music for a long time, Amir had a lot of success even back in the eighties with some metal bands. I had a bit of unexpected success when my lead singer left and joined Korn, and they started playing my music, ‘Blind’, ‘Daddy’ and stuff like that. It changed the world for me, and through that Korn introduced me to Jay Gordon and Amir Derakh. In about two days Amir and I became best friends. We hung out and talked, we just understood each other. We made it through all the Orgy tumults and crazy times. When Orgy started to lose its way, we didn’t know what was going to happen. We were still an entity on the radio, we are making money, but Amir and I still wanted to make music. We started writing, and I had experience doing vocals from Orgy; Chester Bennington and Amir conned me into becoming the singer for Julien-K. We kind of slowly evolved into this band.
GA: I have been listening to the band’s California Noir album, and I really enjoy it. There are bits in it, that remind me of eighties electro pop. What was the inspiration to write an album with this type of direction musically?
AD: I think every one of our records we try to have sort of a concept behind it. Ryan came up with the concept of California Noir, the idea and feeling behind it. So, some songs started to form, and as that was happening it started to bloom into what it was, which is how all the records start out. Even though we are very electronic, there is a very organic process to the way we create our music. Things kind of come together and fall together as I may say. Halfway through writing that album, it turned into a double album. It was something that started to happen, as we were going along we started seeing a way of how to put it all together. We wanted to put it out as two separate parts. Two crowdfunded campaigns then eventually it becomes what we really envisioned; which is a double album altogether. It was a fun experiment which we think worked.
GA: Is the band currently working on newer music, and if so can you go further into detail about it?
RS:
Yes, we are working on our new album called Harmonic Disruptor. Amir came up with the concept for this album. We feel like it is going back to our roots in Orgy, with a heavier more industrial feel. We think it is going to be a crowd pleaser, and our fans are going to love it. We think there isn’t any one else doing this style right now, we want to show everyone why we are the guys at the top of this dark heavy goth industrial type music that is missing right now. We also crowdfunded this album and went number 1 on the first day and raised $20,000 in twenty-four hours. That was totally insane, and we went in in-demand which means the campaign was so successful that it just keeps going. Which is useful, because as we are out here, and there are people that may never have heard of us before start connecting the dots, and like what we are doing; they too can have a chance to get onboard and help support what we are doing. That becomes the way we can fund our albums and the fans are our record label. I think the work we put into Harmonic Disruptor we are proud of so far. It is almost like we all have this secret, that we can’t really tell anyone yet. Anyone can hear the commercial on Indiegogo and get an idea of what we are doing; but we are going to fuck people up with this new album. We are going to do it on purpose, like we meant to strike your attention. It is going to be really cool, and I think everyone is going to be really proud. We have barely scratched the surface of it, we got a lot done, but there is still a lot to do.
GA: When writing a new music, do you have a routine on how you put songs together, and what sparks your creativity when writing?
AD:
We try to do different things every time. Ryan is more of a singer songwriter, where I am more of a conceptual writer, but we also work with a lot of other people. The new album also includes Bidi Cobra and Alex Gonzales helping us write material as well. We are always open to try new things. On our second album my DJ friends who were producers’ kind of had the concept. At that time, I thought it might be fun getting ideas from other producers, and building upon them and turning them into Julien-K. With Harmonic Disruptor there are sounds and things I want to happen on this record, so I have to force that vision on everyone. There are certain drum machines I will seek out that have certain sounds I am looking for, the same for keyboards and guitars; all this stuff that  goes into the sound coinciding with the concept I have in mind. The sound, the feel and the songwriting all are encompassed in this concept, and I think it is important in the beginning to have kind of focus, to have a bit of blinders. You don’t want to go too far one way or the other, let’s keep it here.
BC: This reminds me of when I was in college, I was taking a class on just how to run an art gallery, on putting together an art show. These things, concept, idea, and theme all had special focus on them. When you go to an art show, every piece is to coexist with each other. That artist might be good at drawing sketches, or illustrations, or even computer illustration; but when you go see these media everything there is conceptual and follows a theme, and that’s what Julien-K does (when approaching albums). We follow a theme with colors, sounds; and the songwriting from what I know is, there are no rules. You can start with the smallest idea on guitar, and it can become this massive song when everyone gets on it. It can be a hook, a verse, a riff, a beat; we use anything and everything for an idea to spur a song. It can even be a finished song, and we will re-listen to it, and get an idea for another verse and grow from there. Even though we are electronic musicians we are also a rock band.

AD: This is like one of the songs we are playing in the set now, ‘Photo Voltaire’, which is our new single. There were a few songs that I had this idea, that on the next couple of day we are going to write something completely on the spot. This isn’t going to be like Ryan has an idea, or Amir has this idea, this is going to be on the spot right now. So I pulled out a drum machine and started playing around until something got everyone excited, and that was the beat that sparked ‘Photo Voltaire’. It didn’t sound like that when it came out of the machine, I had to tweak the drums and add to it to make it this big drum sound. We all kind of wrote parts, some fell short but then there were others that had something there for sure. We did a couple more songs like this, I think two or three that were written on the spot. Everyone must be on their A game; it’s like if you don’t nail it, I will nail it, and if I don’t nail it, you are going to nail it. Whatever it takes till something comes together. It was a fun experiment, we never did that before. Typically, someone comes with an idea (Ryan, Amir, Bidi, Alex, or even an outside source) when writing, and we will go through them and pick the ideas we think will work best.
AG: These guys handle everything with precision. Amir has a very keen eye on making sure we stick to the vision. There can be ideas out there, but it may not be what fits for the concept now and he will be the one to say it.
BC: It is sometimes hard because Julien-K has covered so much ground musically. They can make a certain type of song, like a soft ambient song, so in your head you have an idea like that and think maybe I should present this to the band. I think it could potentially be a new Julien-K song.
RS: This is how you get double albums. (Everyone laughs)
AD: This is what really is happening. Everyone is focusing on this thing, but we have a whole other set of ideas we have been writing on. All these other ideas that could possibly form the album after this one.
AG: That speaks volumes to how these guys (Ryan and Amir) handle every facet of the band. They know what they want, and it is amazing. (writing-wise) To know exactly what kick to use, and what snare to throw on the song. Its amazing to me to see that kind of laser focus on a vision.
GA: That’s awesome that you all have that kind of relationship to say this is what we have and what fits for now. That these other ideas can be shelved for the time being and can be revisited for future music.
AD:
That’s how the Time Capsule album came about. We listened to our fans a lot and over the years the fans have asked us, ‘whatever happened to those Myspace demos, or where’s those songs you had up in your studio videos? Where are those songs?’ They obsess over it, for years and years and years. A few years back I started looking at some of this stuff and listening to these rough mixes and demos we had; I realized, wow we have a lot of unreleased material. I went to the guys and said, ‘look we have all this stuff, maybe now is the time to put all this together and do something really ambitious.’ Time Capsule has been our most successful campaign to date, because our fans really freaked out over it. We over delivered on the project, Fu and I spent so much time going over everything.

GA: The members of Julien-K are multi-instrumentalists, what would you say for yourself is your favorite instrument to play on? This can be something outside of your primary instrument.
RS:
I am a singer songwriter and Amir nailed it on the head, I play guitar and I sing. I’ve been the guitar player backup singer for multiple bands, Dead by Sunrise, and Orgy. I can do keyboards and drums, and I also write on bass, and feel like I am a better writer on bass when coming up with ideas, but that is just me. Singing however is the hardest job. I like to sing, I want to be a good singer and I work hard at it, but you can’t tune your voice. If you feel sick, like I do now, and the road is hard on you, it can be a really fucking unforgiving position. It can become the most embarrassing position, when you watch the social media replays every night, and you are not singing well, you are fucking embarrassed. So, I love it, but I also hate a lot of it.
AD: I don’t know, I play guitar and keyboards, programming, drums, bass, whatever is around I guess that inspires me is what I go with.
RS: Amir is driven by a tone, or an interesting piece of equipment which I have always liked. He will find a thing, and know what it is and from what era it is from, and get so intrigued and inspired by it. Amir makes it really cool, because he always brings in a new toy, and that becomes a new song. He is obsessive about it. Bidi and Alex also write on everything, which made this album coming up really special. We did a lot of writing one on one style, Bidi brought in a bunch of ideas, and Alex and I got together and wrote, and a lot of these ideas we are using. Then Amir brings in a huge chunk of work to Harmonic Disruptor, from pieces of gear, to sounds he wanted. He really had a vision for this, but what I discovered was that wow, Bidi and Alex both write great vocals, they can sing, and they can do all this great stuff. They are not just a drummer and guitar player keyboard player guy, we have all this talent. That is what we look for, we look for talented rad people with a great perspective. Then we just do our weird shit and try to stay weird.
BC: Instrument-wise it is different, in the studio and at home: I like writing more on synths and keyboards. It’s like a one-man band, something about layering certain textures. I have always loved The Cure and Depeche Mode, there is something about hearing multiple layers, slightly different maybe the same coming together creating the mood. For live, being stuck behind a keyboard isn’t always the most exciting, but it is cool. So, the fact that I get to go back to my roots as a guitar player and bassist, it makes it exciting to run around. It’s fun getting to rock out on stage.
GA: Julien-K has been apart of many projects since its inception in 2003, having worked on soundtracks, video games and movies, to even working with the late Chester Bennington. What has to be your most to the heart project you have gotten to work on?
RS:
This is like trying to choose between your children, you don’t love little Alex more than little Brian. You know what I mean? We were listening to Dead by Sunrise yesterday because it was the one-year anniversary of Chester’s passing. When I was listening to it, I was like “Fuck, this is fucking good man!” I am loving it. I am a self-hater masochist when it comes to my projects, but occasionally I will listen to something I have done and say we did a good job on that. I think that it is hard for me to say the work I am really most proud of. I think we put our heart and soul into everything. It’s funny because on Death to Analog, our first album, in my head I would be like that album isn’t that good. I didn’t feel like I was a very good singer and didn’t know what I was doing. What are we doing now, playing a ton of Death to Analog songs, and we went back to that influence because the fans love it. So, I look at it differently now.
GA: Getting to tour with The Cult, Bush and Stone Temple Pilots must be a dream come true for you all, can you tell me a little about how you got hooked up with this tour?
RS:
Everything in our careers to be honest with you… I am writing an article on this for Control Forever. I’m writing an indie business article, and I am being honest on how things happen, and how we do what we do as a band. The first article is called ‘Crowd Surfing your Way out of Hell’, ten steps to basically figure out your career like we have. Like once we were on a major label, and all this stuff was handled for us like promotions; and now we are completely crowdfunded, and we do everything ourselves. I am going to get into this more in the article; but everything is relationships, everything is being around, everything is getting involved, everything is putting yourself out there and trying, usually failing. We were just commenting on a comment a friend of ours in the industry posted, saying you have to be a bitch if you are a woman to get what you want, this type of argument. I couldn’t disagree more. Like if you are in the music industry, it’s tough so you have to be an asshole or a bitch. I would say no, be humble, and you have to be well liked. You earn respect by being cool and being good at what you do. In this case we have earned a lot of friends over the years. We have earned a lot of connections. We haven’t burned any bridges. We take this shit very seriously, and that is why when I throw our name into the hat for something like this tour I feel confident. We are just this little band Julien-K, we are not even on a record label, with no right to be up here from the business world of music. So how do we get up here? Well our former manager Jeff Forner (current manager of Bush) and our other former manager Peter Katsis (current manager of Stone Temple Pilots) are involved with this tour, so I threw my name in the hat. Then all the things converged, and here we are. I can’t stress enough, play your fucking cards right, don’t use people, be a good person, be a good friend, make great music, and don’t be a fucking asshole. We have been doing this shit for twenty, thirty years now, almost our entire lives, and I run into people all the time where everyone hates them. They shit on everyone to get where they are and are fucking assholes. If you play it cool and smart and focus on doing a great job and being a great person, building lasting relationships its only going to help you. I said these guys were my former managers, but we are still great friends, our parting wasn’t fire and brimstone, we just ended up doing different stuff. Bands ended like Orgy, things changed, management companies change, and you just keep it fucking real, and there you go. Now we are out here on this giant tour with three of our favorite bands, and in my opinion three of the best bands to ever hit the planet earth.
GA: What is next for Julien-K after this tour?
RS:
We are looking at hitting the entire world. We are going to Europe. We are doing Mexico. There is a possibility of doing a West Coast run near the end of August. We have been offered more Revolution 3 shows, we are performing really well, and they offered us more shows. We are booked but are trying to figure out how to do it. Then somehow in-between all of this we have to work on Harmonic Disruptor. This is all a part of being in a band and writing, that we are trying to figure out how to make it work.
GA: Can you tell me more about your live rigs, and what you are using? Any endorsements please mention.
RS:
We are happy to talk about Friedman Guitars. We were very precise on what we were doing, and why we were doing for live shows. Amir can tell you better than anyone.
AD: The sound is getting heavier; our friend Dave Friedman has been helping us. Dave built our racks when we were in Orgy. There are guitar racks out there, but I think mine was a little more complex of a build because of all the synths. So, I think it was a fun challenge for him, because I had all these ideas on how I wanted to do it. So, we because good friends back then. He was doing amp mods for a long time and eventually started coming out with his own line of products. I heard about it, and then one day when I was in Guitar Center I saw his Friedman amps in there and thought it was crazy. I plugged in and I was blown away. We were using Orange amps and have been for some time, and it didn’t have quite the sound I was going for, for the new material. I liked the Friedman after trying it and talked to Dave about making some custom builds for touring and moving forward. His guitars are equally as good, Grover Jackson is making them. Before Dave had Grover making the guitars, Dave and I were meeting about other stuff as well; and he was telling me about starting to make guitars and I told him he had to get Grover. I brought Dave one of the guitars Grover had made for me and he really liked it. I am not saying I had anything to do with that, but I am happy that they have partnered up together, because the guitars they are making are amazing.
BC: I was at rehearsal and almost everyone shut down their rigs, and Ryan had his rig still fired up. He was just playing on his own through a 2 x 12 cabinet. I come from a time where Korn and Orgy were getting big, and back then you needed a full stack or a half stack to be taken seriously. You know back then if you came to rehearsals with a 12-inch combo amp you would get laughed at. Amps today do not sound like they did back then, his sound was huge coming out of that cabinet. You could only imagine how full it would sound with both playing.
AD: We used Yamaha for in the studio for equipment. I am still using them today for a lot of things, their basses and all kinds of equipment for recording. Our signature models have become so valuable and scarce since they made a limited run of them, that we stopped touring with them and looked for other options. I talked to a friend of mine, Davey who was repping this company Ozztosh, this is the aluminum guitars we have. This company is out of California, and they are all handmade and look like robot parts. It immediately caught my eye, because I love weird futuristic things. They have graphite necks, and all this other stuff which makes them appealing.
BC: I met up with Davey, and I have a gold pick guard on my bass, and he is like, “You know that is gold-plated right?” I couldn’t believe it, I fear hitting it. It sounds really good and made with so much love. The bass was on loan to me for the tour and then he asks me if I liked it, which I responded I love it. He tells me to just keep it, which is such an honor. I am using that bass and a Gallien Krueger combo amp. It’s a 115 and solid state but works for what we are doing.
AD: A lot of people are downsizing their gear now. Its like building planes, they are quieter and use less gas now and more efficient, they are more powerful. Well that’s happening with all the gear these days. Everything is getting smaller but does a lot more. That’s what we did, we sort of cleaned house and got newer great stuff that allows us to tap into more sounds without all the bulk.
AG: I play all DW stuff, I am a DW collector. It is what I love to use. I also use K Custom cymbals. I do use Haram Drumsticks which I am endorsed by. Anything I ask for they deliver on. If I want a custom pair of sticks they will make them for me and get them right out. I use an XPS for condensing which gives me all these sounds through my DAW. It makes it fun for me to even do electronic music and play through pads.
GA: Where can people keep up to date with all things Julien-K online, and if they want to support the band or buy merchandise where is your online store?
RS:
Indiegogo.com if you search JKHD it will take you to Julien-K Harmonic Disruptor. Our website, which has everything on there. We are also on Amazon, you can follow us on Facebook, also you can follow any of the members personally. We also promote on Instagram, and Twitter.
GA: Anything else you all would like to add?
RS:
Please check out our new album Harmonic Disruptor that is in a crowdfunding campaign on Indiegogo.

Julien-K Contacts
Main: http://www.julienk.com
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/julienk
Instagram: @JulienKOfficial
Twitter: @JulienK
Indiegogo: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/jkhd-harmonic-disruptor-band-design
Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Julien-K/e/B001UO36KG

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Inferious preform live at Preserving Underground April 2026 By Josh Drespling

by Josh Drespling


I was at Preserving Underground to cover Filth and Resistor. I was all set with my photo pass and cameras at the ready. And then this young band exploded onto the stage. No grand entrance, no intro music, no flashy lights—just a wall of noise from the first guitar chord and a guttural growl that seemed to come from somewhere below the floorboards. I was blown away. Thoroughly impressed.

This band was Inferious, out of Dayton, Ohio. If you look up the word “inferious,” most dictionaries will tell you it means something low-status, submissive, or fit for sacrifice. But this Ohio metalcore outfit Inferious has spent the last several years proving that definition couldn’t be more wrong. Tonight in the basement of a converted church, Inferious delivered raw, sweat-soaked fury to all who were smart enough to show up early.

Before their set was even half over, I made up my mind that I had to talk to them and let our readers know about this band. Here is how it went:

Empire: This was the first time I have ever seen you guys. I’ve heard your name before but never had the chance to listen. The show tonight was freaking awesome. I loved it from the first few notes. The vocals and the guitar tone just hit ya right in the chest.

Since I am a new fan, can you give me the nickel tour of how you came together and I understand you are from Dayton, Ohio.

Shaun O’Shaughnessy – Guitarist: I live in Dayton, and the original band members all formed in Dayton, but it was kind of a collage of multiple band folks. People from the southwest Ohio area. Gabe [McQueen – vocals] and I were there at the beginning, and then through some line-up changes, this is our current and most solid touring line-up so far with Cody and Kyle. They also are from the area and have been in several bands. So they were always in the same circles, at the same shows, talking to the same people. It all worked out one day.

Empire: Given that, it seems like there is a healthy music scene in Dayton. Are there any good clubs, any fields to play in?

Shaun: It’s hard to say Dayton, Ohio, specifically so much as just southwest Ohio because of the way that Dayton, Columbus, and Cincinnati form like a little triangle. You’re only an hour apart from each other. So we can get into that larger music scene pretty easily. So Dayton itself has venues, but the whole collective area has stuff. There’s some house venues, like Gnome House, there’s Bob’s, but then Cincinnati has Madison Live, and Design Collective [DSGN CLLCTV] was doing shows for a while, but I think they got in trouble.
Cody: Yeah, it some code stuff.

Empire: I think there are a couple decent places in Akron, and even across the border is Huntington, WV?

Shaun: Yeah, that area still does have sick stuff. It’s just farther away from our personal local scene. Cleveland is kind of separate from us too.

Cody: That’s not necessarily our scene, but there is such a good underground local scene from the Huntington / Athens / Charleston area. Shout to Feverwar.

Shaun: We were just at the Grog Shop [outside Cleveland].

Cody: We were at the New Foundry not too long ago.

Empire: Oh, yeah, like upstairs?

Shaun: No, it is Foundry’s new location.

Empire: I’ve not been there.

Shaun: It looks basically like the old one, but it’s new.

Empire: You mentioned the Grog Shop. Were you guys there with Filth and Resistor?

Shaun: Yeah, we’ve been on tour with Filth and Resistor. The first half of the tour had Two-Piece on it; we missed them, but now Mono’s [Monochromatic Black] on for the second half, and they’re homies.

Gabe and I toured with them in Inferious a couple years ago with band called AMTAE, and Monochromatic Black. So, those are long-time homies as well. So, we’ve known Tanya [Elizabeth (Beickert) – Vocals] and Eddie [DeCesare – Drums] for a long time, and Pierce [Akers – Guitar] is our new best friend as well.

Empire: So, it’s just like a big hang for you guys.

Shaun: Yeah, all the homies are back. We’ve toured with Filth before too; we were out with them on the Oceano tour, and then actually a year ago, I think like right now, like today a year ago, we toured with Filth also. So, it’s Filth and Oceano, and then Filth again.

So, it’s been fun to have a full circle of friend hangs, and every night’s been sick. The show turnouts have been amazing, and then just hanging out with all our friends has been amazing.

Empire: That’s part of what makes it fun. Whether you have 50 people or 1000, you have that camaraderie and shared experience.

Empire: So do you currently have an album out? Where do you guys stand with that?

Gabe: We have music out everywhere, on all music platforms: Apple Music, Spotify, Google Play, and YouTube Music. Shit, if you even got to rip that shit, YouTube to MP4, do it, man!

Shaun: We got your back. We got three full lengths and an EP. We are working on a new EP with a label we’re signed to that we’ll announce here soon, but that’s going to be really exciting stuff, and just stoked to be able to get that out soon.

Empire: Cool. So don’t say the label name, but your deal is in place, and then the new album in the fall, winter, spring?

Shaun: Yeah, the EP should be coming out sometime this year, if all the schedules align and everything, but that’s in the works.

Empire: Cool. Filth tour, what’s after that?

Shaun: Finishing up the EP. Record release cycle, and then hopefully touring in support of that. Whether it’s co-headlining with somebody or doing some more support stuff, we’re down for whatever. Hopefully we can fill up the rest of the year.

You know, touring is hard financially, so while we’re able to still make ends meet on the road, it’s hard to pay all the bills, so we’ve got to go home, stack our bread back up, and then be ready to go back out again.

Empire: I understand. Is this your first time in Pittsburgh?

Shaun: We’ve actually played Preserving. This is at least the fifth time.

We played the DIY room, we played this room, this orientation, we played this room when it was facing the other direction. AJ, the owner, has been good to us. He is a rad dude.

Empire: AJ is great.

Shaun: The record shop and merch store upstairs is sick, I just bought a shirt, a Never Ending Game shirt, because we have to do a laundry soon, and I bought a shirt to extend one more day to get through.

Empire: Anything you guys want to add, anything going on? Shameless plugs?

Shaun: This has been a kind of sick tour, because I think we’ve all got to see family members. Gabe’s dad dropped him off, so we got to see Gabe’s dad. We got to go get breakfast with my mom and some family, I saw my aunt. Cody’s mom let us stay at her crib, and we got to hang out with her and his family. Kyle’s family came out last night and hung out, and that was pretty sick, so it’s been a good time.

Empire: Kyle hasn’t said anything, so tell me about your family coming out and seeing the show.

Kyle: I mean, it was my sister’s first time seeing us live.

Empire: What did she have to say? I mean, I’m sure she knew the style.

Kyle: Oh, yeah, she’s conditioned to it.

Empire: She’s not like a Britney Spears fan at a hardcore show?

Kyle: No, no, she’s by far not a normie, but close to it.

Empire: Thank you, gentlemen. That’s all I have today. Appreciate it, and thanks for the show. It was great; loved it.

Shaun: See you next time.

Before that night at Preserving Underground, I’ll be honest: Inferious was just a name on a show flyer. Another opening band before the acts I actually came to see.

That’s the thing about this level of heavy music. The headliners get the lights, the longer set, and the crowd that’s already warmed up. But the openers? They get twenty-five minutes, a soundcheck that barely counts, and a room full of people who are mostly looking at their phones. Inferious didn’t just overcome that. They incinerated it.

What struck me most, sitting down with Shaun, Gabe, Cody, and Kyle after the show, was how unpretentious they were. No egos. No rock-star posturing. Just four guys from southwest Ohio who’ve been grinding in the same circles, playing the same basement venues, and slowly building something real. They talked about the small venues with the same reverence other bands reserve for stadiums. They shouted out Feverwar. They bought merch from the shop upstairs to make it through one more day on the road.

That’s the part you don’t see from the crowd. The financial grind. The van trouble. The “stack our bread back up” reality of modern touring. And yet, here they were—genuinely stoked to have seen family members at shows, genuinely grateful for AJ at Preserving keeping the doors open for underground bands, and genuinely excited about an upcoming EP they couldn’t even name the label for yet.

Inferious may have a name that suggests something low-status, something sacrificial. But after watching them level a converted church in New Kensington, and after listening to them talk about their scene with the easy confidence of people who have nothing to prove, I think the definition needs an update.

Check them out on all the streaming platforms. Catch them when they roll through your town on the next tour. And for the love of God, show up early.

You never know which opening band is going to blow your doors off.




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Interview with Peter Smith, drummer for Resistor

Live photos by: Ron S. of Empire Extreme
Band promo photo credit: Sean Raynor

Long Island’s Resistor have never been content to simply exist within genre lines—they’d rather bulldoze them entirely. The self-described purveyors of “knuckle dragging wika wika core” are poised to unleash their full-length debut BITE THIS on March 27 via Paid Vacation, and if the advance copies circulating are any indication, the 29-minute assault is exactly the kind of no-skip, leave-them-wanting-more experience the quintet has been perfecting since their 2023 So It Begins EP. Built from the ground up with producer Randy LeBoeuf (Kublai Khan TX, The Acacia Strain) and featuring the turntable wizardry of Manhattan’s own Anthony Arce, the album channels the cocky swagger of nu-metal’s heyday through a hardcore filter that’s equal parts brutal and self-aware—a balance that’s become the band’s signature.

Empire Extreme recently caught up with drummer Pete Smith ahead of the album’s release and the band’s upcoming Northeast run with Filth, including a April 30 stop at Pittsburgh’s Preserving Underground. Over the course of the conversation, Smith dove into the story behind the album’s striking clay sculpture artwork, the reality of playing the Gathering of the Juggalos, why cassettes hold a special place in his heart, and how a wrestling ring full of real blood became the setting for one of the band’s most memorable music videos. He also addressed the obvious elephant in the room: whether those Islander jerseys are going to cause problems when the band hits Penguin and Steeler territory.

Resistor Bite This! Album Cover 2026

Empire Extreme – First off to jump right into it. The new album is coming out March 27, and my first question has to be, what is the album artwork?

Pete – Long story short, we’ve been following this theme with our last couple of records. We started with our EPs, so it all began a couple of years ago. We found this cool clown design that just resonated with us. For the last couple of records, we’ve been doing different versions of this clown. For this last one we found a random clown sculpture on Instagram by a local artist. We all saw it, and we fell in love. It’s so cool, it’s off-putting, but like in the best way. We all like it and fit with the music, so we hit the guy up. Initially it wasn’t available, then came to find out he likes our music, and he’s already a fan. Then he was like, “Yeah, you guys can just totally use the artwork” He was super stoked about it. So yeah, it makes a fun story.

Empire Extreme – That’s awesome, I was going to ask you about who the artist was. Can you give us his name, and give him some props?

Pete – Yeah, I believe on Instagram it’s Clay for Brains. His name is Tim. He makes these really cool clay sculptures.

Empire Extreme – Oh, so it’s like a three-dimensional kind of art?

Pete – Yeah, it’s a real sculpture. Our singer [Anthony Grambo] does a lot of graphic design work, so he took the sculpture and made into it what it is on the record.

Empire Extreme – That’s awesome that you are hands-on with that, and plus you got a local guy.

Empire Extreme – Speaking local, you guys are from New York, whereabouts?

Pete – Yeah, so we’re pretty much all based on Long Island, New York, but our DJ [Anthony Arce] lives in Manhattan. We’re all from more western Long Island, and you know. We definitely claim New York. You’ll see us wearing New York stuff, pretty much everywhere you see us. We’re not shy about it, but yeah, Long Island boys for sure.

Empire Extreme – As you know Empire is based in Pittsburgh, and I’ve seen a couple photos of you guys wearing an Islander’s jersey. That’s just not going to go well when the tour hits Pittsburgh. This is deep Penguin and Steelers territory. LOL!

Pete – You know, good thing our singer is not here. He would have a lot of things to say about the Islander’s. For me, it’s the Mets.

Empire Extreme – How about the Jets? We stole Aaron Rodgers now, so…

Pete – Oh, God. Yeah, honestly, my whole family is Jets fans, I haven’t paid attention to football for a long time. It’s very hard as a Jets fan, so you don’t want to pay attention. It’s pretty depressing.

Empire Extreme – All right, back to music stuff. You guys are doing a handful of shows with Filth. Resistor has done some shows with them before, but you seem like kind of buddies. How did that all develop, and are you looking forward to this next handful of shows with them?

Pete – We are all super excited about these shows. We met the guys in Filth. I believe it was summer 2024. That was when we were first gaining any bit of traction. We had finally released our new EP. We were really stoked when we got the first offer with them and it was like an instant connection. We became great friends, and since then, it’s history.

This is going to be our third run together, and this one might be the best one. It has so many good bands on it, a lot of good shows. It’s going to be really awesome.

Empire Extreme – Filth has been one of my favorites in the last couple years. Resistor kind of came onto my radar because of them, plus you were all over my socials. I think it was because of Filth or whatever, but yeah.

Pete – On our second tour together, I actually filled in with Filth on drums, so there’s a bit of it. We’re connected in more ways than one, for sure.

Empire Extreme – Well, your singer, Grambo is a big Limp Bizkit fan. With Filth redoing “Rolling”, is there any chance that you might knock out some type of collaboration or do something silly live?

Pete – We’ve always thrown up the idea of doing some kind of collab, but I’ll leave it at that. I won’t spoil it if we will or we won’t. If it happens, if it happens.

Empire Extreme – All right. Please explain “knuckle dragging wika wika core”.

Pete – Knuckle dragging wika wika core” at its core, no pun intended is the best way that we can describe what we do. We feel like we’re doing something familiar, but it’s also something that is hard to place into a specific genre because we feel like it can kind of fall under a couple of things. So, we’re like, we got to start thinking of our own thing to call it. And what we landed on was “knuckle dragging wika wika core”. It’s just about crazy, heavy riffs. You know, stuff that makes you want to drag your knuckles across the ground and then you hear the wika, wika, wika, in the background. So, we just put them together.

Empire Extreme – When I first saw that, I just kind of laughed inside. I was like, that nails it right there.

Pete – Yeah, exactly. You know, we’re like, while we are super heavy, with a the “fuck you” [attitude] we also try to be a little goofy and self-aware of where we are. And we’re not taking ourselves too seriously. We are having fun.

Empire Extreme – Can you tell us about working with Randy LeBoeuf (Acacia Stain, Misery Signals, Counterparts, Thy Art is Murder, Every Time I Die, Unity TX, Kublai Khan TX)?

Pete – Randy, I cannot say enough positive things about him? Because he truly is like one of the best at what he does. But yeah, we went to the studio around mid-August last year. And I think up until November, we were writing and recording. We did have a month-long tour in between. But otherwise, we were literally at the studio writing, recording, almost the whole second half of last year. We feel like once it comes out, this record is really going to let people see why we’re taking so long.

Empire Extreme – We got an advance copy here at Empire and I have listened to it probably, I don’t know maybe 10 or 12 times. Just the heaviness of the whole album and it has that groove and a real hip-hop sensibility to it.

Pete – That’s awesome. Do you have a favorite song by any chance? Not to you on the spot first. The one that sticks out to you.

Empire Extreme – I don’t know the names off the top of my head. They all kind of still blend together in my head. But obviously the two singles you put out the videos for. I mean, both of those are slammin’.

Pete – I’m only asking because we are at a weird point where the album’s coming out in two weeks and obviously, we’re going to start playing live and we’re going to start releasing more music videos. So, I just wanted to kind-of get a vibe of what people are enjoying right off the bat.

Empire Extreme – I know exactly what you mean. Let me say this, you know, people say back in the day it used to be albums. How it is now with singles and streaming. We would listen to the whole album without skipping a single track.

Pete – Exactly. That was our main goal with this for sure. We wanted a no skip album. You know, a full listening experience.

Empire Extreme – Yes, it is. Plus, with the entire album clocking in at 29 or 30 minutes long? It’s like, oh, it’s over already.

Pete – Exactly. That’s another thing that we always preached that you never want to overstay your welcome. When it comes to live sets, but also with albums too. We very much want to leave them wanting more. You don’t want to get to the end of an album or a live set and be like, all right, we’ll I wish they were done 10 minutes ago. So, yeah, that’s like our number one thing. We always want to leave people wanting more. That’s a big thing for us.

Empire Extreme – I’ve been in lots of different bands in my life and that was always one of my things. Leave them wanting more because then they’re going to buy the CD, then they’re going to check us out online and even come to another show. We didn’t want to go there and play for an hour and bore them after half an hour.

Pete – I can’t tell you how many bands I’ve watched for the first 20 minutes of the show. Like, this is awesome. I’m so stoked. Even though it could be my favorite band on the planet, I’m watching it for 20, 30 minutes. This is awesome. This rules. And then, you know, minute by minute, you start to feel like, ah, I just wanna go home, this going to go all night.
Empire Extreme – Yeah, you’re looking at your phone and your watch.

Pete – Yes, exactly. I’ve got to speak about it from a showgoer’s perspective or a listener’s perspective, you know? Yeah, that’s a thing that is important to us.

Empire Extreme – You mentioned the videos. Currently there’s the “Dead Soul” and “Petty Fuck” videos. You kind of mentioned there’s more in the works. What’s the story?

Pete – Yeah, I won’t spoil what song it’s for. We did just shoot a video yesterday. That should be coming out the day of the record. It’s going to be really cool. It’s a really funny video. It’s not like the ones we’ve done before. It’s pretty much all a story. It’s very juicy. It’s so ridiculous that you’ll laugh when you see it. It’s not like any video you’ve ever seen before. I can promise you that.

Empire Extreme – I’m looking forward to it.

You guys played the Gathering of the Juggalos this past summer. I’m very familiar with the Juggalo family and have been involved with Psychopathic off and on over the year. It can be intimidating going in knowing that some bands get up there and they are pelted with bottles and booed off stage.

Pete – I want to be as positive as possible, but I’m not going to lie. It wasn’t a great experience. It’s one of those things where I’m happy, we did it. I’m glad to say that we did it. The community, we love the community. The people that were there to see us were super stoked. We love the community and the fans. The time was just weird. We just had to play early, and we also were in the middle of the studio. So, we had to drive from New York to Ohio for one day at a festival and then we drove right back. And things just didn’t line up for us.

Empire Extreme – So it was more of a logistics thing?

Pete – Yeah, I don’t want to say it was a totally bad experience. Just walking around the festival was crazy. You know what I mean? It is certainly site to see. It was a lot of fun. Everybody there was super cool and super nice. I love all the fans. Everyone who we talked to were the coolest people ever. I highly recommend that if you could go you should go once in your life. I would recommend going because it’s so ridiculous. It’s awesome.

Empire ExtremeThat moment you walk in the gates of the Gathering. You’re just like, Oh my.

Pete – You know, it’s unlike anything you could truly do on the planet. So, in that sense, it rules. Our guitar player [Anthony Conti] did a Faygo launch competition, which is pretty funny. That probably was the highlight for me. I wish I could say it was like the best thing ever. And there were 5,000 people watching us, but yeah, we can’t win them all.

Empire ExtremeWell, the way they have it set up with the multiple stages and some of them are playing at four o’clock in the morning or whatever.

Pete – That’s the thing. The stage that we played was the second stage out of three. We thought it was like it’s like this big stage near everybody. It was a pretty big stage, but the problem is it’s not near anybody or anything. It was a 10-minute walk away from the main stage and then down a huge hill. If you weren’t near the hill, you couldn’t even see the stage at all. So, no one even knew where we were playing.

Empire ExtremeHow was the load into that stage?

Pete – Surprisingly that was the easiest part. I think the only real issue was how early we had to play. Our set time was around four o’clock. We were like “Oh, that’s perfect.” We are right in the middle of day, everyone’s going to be like hanging out. But I think the reality is with the Gathering people aren’t really getting active until a bit later, you know what I mean? It takes until six or seven o’clock and then people start to come out and party. We realized that after the fact, but you know, you live and learn.

That’s why I said it’s like a lot of, a lot of little things. But overall, it was a fun experience, something I’m glad that we did for sure. We just had a couple little of hiccups.

Empire ExtremeTo rewind back to the album, I forgot to ask you about the blue vinyl version coming out.

Pete – Yeah, this is our first time doing a vinyl for a full record. We have vinyl up for pre-order now on our website; weareresistor.com. If anyone wants a pre-order vinyl, we got them there. It’s a pretty short run. I think it’s only 300 copies. Once they’re gone, they’re gone. And we will also have them on tour too.

If anyone sees us in person, we’ll have tour vinyls as well.

Empire Extreme – You guys have a date here in Pittsburgh, I think it’s at the end of April or something like that? (Thursday, April 30 at Preserving Underground with Filth, Monochromatic Black, and Inferious)

Pete – Yeah. We’re hitting the Northeast towards the end of the month.

Empire Extreme – What does this band mean to you? I mean, is it a release or therapy, an escape, or a way to pick up chicks or an attempt to get rich?

Pete – Well, I would say if getting rich was my main priority I would have been out of this a long, long time ago. The real reason I’m here is just to make really, really cool music.

My parents are musicians. They’re lifelong musicians. So, it’s something I felt that I was meant to do from a very young age. It’s literally in my blood. My dad is a drummer and my mom’s a singer. That happens to be the two things that I do. You know, it’s a predictable path I went down. I wouldn’t have it any other way.

Empire Extreme – Did you start out playing drums when you were a kid or did you start out on another instrument?

Pete – My first real instrument was upright bass. I played that all through elementary, middle, and high school. I played drums here and there as a kid, but I didn’t really have a passion for it. Until maybe when I was starting high school. I joined the band. Well, the original reason was because of this girl. I guess you could say that. It was like she was in the band, and I liked her, so I started playing drums more, and then it all went from there.

Empire Extreme – That’s funny and cool. So, who was your drum idol?

Pete – That’s a tough one. I have a few of them. Do you know the band called Periphery?

Empire Extreme – Yeah, I’m familiar with them.

Pete – Their drummer, his name is Matt Halpern. He was a big, big inspiration. I mean, just his style of playing. It’s a very progressive, very smooth style, very loose, and a lot of ghost notes and cymbals. You know cool little flourishes here and there. I really love that. And the obvious one Joey Jordison of Slipknot. They are one of my favorite bands of all time and hearing his drumming in the band. He had some of the first crazy drumming I’ve heard in my life. That’s an easy one. So, yeah, those two would be the ones if I had to [give] credit to me starting

Empire Extreme – Those are two very prolific drummers. You mentioned Slipknot, and I can hear some of that influence in the new album. The Slipknot rhythm kind of thing. I have it right here in my notes. Limp Bizkit mixed with Slipknot and some punk rock and some newer bands too.

Pete – Yeah, I kind of bring a modern style mixed with some old school style, you know what I mean?

Empire Extreme – Yeah, not to say that it’s all over the place, but it’s pulling from lots of different areas.

Pete – For what it’s worth, it is kind of is all over the place, but in a good way. We wanted it to be a little all over the place. We wanted to be something that, while it’s familiar, it’s something that people haven’t heard before.

Empire ExtremeI have kind of a handful of oddball weird questions, and you can answer them as you like.

Pete – Yeah, sure.

Empire ExtremeWhen you guys are driving in the van from show to show, who controls the music in the vehicle?

Pete – My personal rule is whoever is driving. When I’m driving, I will not break that rule. Otherwise, it depends on who’s driving. Some of the people in the van are more anal about their music being played. For me I won’t have it any other way. I gotta focus, you know what I mean? I need to have my own music or a podcast or something like that to keep me focused on the road, you know.

Empire ExtremeOK next one. Are you prepared for a zombie apocalypse or AI becoming aware? And is there a difference between the two?

Pete – I think I would take a zombie apocalypse over AI to be honest. But I think the second one is unfortunately way more likely one that happens. I’m probably not prepared for that. I don’t think any of us are. I think I’m probably completely fucked when that drops. At least with AI, I’m kind of already mentally prepared for that one.

Empire Extreme – Here is another silly one. If a cartoon character was to join Resistor, what cartoon character would it be?

Pete – Oh, that’s, a really good question. Mm-hmm. Maybe Beavis and Butt-Head, well one of those two.

Empire Extreme – That’s a great answer.

Pete – I feel like they would like sitting in our van, I feel like it would work. You know? The conversations are all over the place.

Empire ExtremeThey’d fit right in, is what you’re saying?

Pete – Yeah, exactly.

Empire ExtremeHere’s another stupid one. Every time you walk into a room and a song plays, what would that song be?

Pete – It’s probably The Rock theme song. That is completely it. Or something really goofy or cheesy. I can’t take myself too seriously, to be honest, something along those lines.

Empire ExtremeYou mentioned The Rock. One of my questions that I kind of skipped over was I’ve seen several of your social media posts and whoever is responding from your band has used wrestler memes several times. There was Stone Cold one and a Rock one. So, are you guys wrestling fans and who, what, why, where?

Pete – I would say our singer. He was the most into it out of any of us. I know he was into the old-school early 2000s era. We have a Resistor 3:16 shirt, like the classic Stone Cold shirt. I don’t know if you’ve seen the Come Mierda video, but we literally did it inside a wrestling ring with the real wrestlers. They were just beating the shit out of each other while we’re playing. There is a scene where one of the guys breaks a full light tube over to the other guy’s head and there’s blood everywhere. It’s all real. Nothing was faked. Its all real blood. We had to tarp off the whole thing, it was ridiculous, but a lot of fun. It is my favorite music video we have shot. The actual act of shooting it was so fun because we had a bunch of people literally pretending it was an actual wrestling event. The wrestlers had to do their walk-ins while we were playing and beat the shit out of each other. I also didn’t realize how bouncy a wrestling ring is. When you’re trying to play drums, you bounce and it is all over the place while smashing each other on the floor. It’s no wonder they are jumping from 10 feet off the ground. Makes sense. It was literally like going into a bounce house, but it had a metal floor.

Empire Extreme – I got a couple more stupid ones here. Have you ever gone to spring break?

Pete – No no. I’m not a party person. I’m very much more of a sit at home and play video games guy.

Empire ExtremeLast one, and I’ll get out of here and let you get back to your life. What is your preference. Vinyl, cassette, CDs, 8-tracks, download, stream?

Pete – Okay, so for obvious convenience’s sake streaming is great. But I don’t think it’s the best way to listen to music by any means. Nor do I think it’s good for artists, you know, Spotify and all that. You know the problems in the streaming industry. But honestly, I would love to go back to more cassettes. There’s a certain nostalgia that comes with listening to a tape. Listening to a CD still feels modern. But there is just something I like about it. I remember riding around in the car with my dad as a kid, and he’d always listen to cassettes, and he’d put me onto different bands. He had Rage Against The Machine tapes, and all these different bands. So, I think cassettes would probably be my number one, just for nostalgia purposes.

Empire Extreme – With the cassettes it kind of forces you to listen to the whole album. Skipping was kinda difficult trying to figure out where the next song starts.

Pete – Yeah, exactly. And similar, at least with vinyl you can lift it, but you’re more encouraged to listen to it from front to back, rather than just skipping through.

Empire ExtremeTo wrap up is there anything you want to add? Any self-promotion?

Pete – Well, I’ll just end it by shouting out the band.

WeAreResistor on all platforms. Our new album, Bite This, drops on March 27, which I believe is less than two weeks away now, so that’s pretty crazy. But yeah, we’re streaming on all the platforms. We’ve got pre-orders on our website, weareresistor.com.

Empire Extreme – Awesome, great. Thank you for your time. Hopefully I get to check you guys out when you come through Pittsburgh here next month.

Pete – Yeah, I’m so looking forward to it.

Resistor is:
Anthony Grambo [vocals]

Anthony Conti [guitar]

Ian Schneider [bass]

Anthony Arce [turntables]

Peter Smith [drums]

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