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Interview with Chris ”CJ” McMahon of Thy Art is Murder
CJ McMahon, vocalist of Thy Art is Murder is a man of many facets. A man with a taste for expensive shit, with his love of Gucci; To being a family man, a husband and father of two. He also balances his time as a business owner with a tattoo shop. With all of this, he continues to pour his energy into touring and performing around the world with Thy Art is Murder. The fire for creativity still burning with a band that has been going for over 16 years now. Fans can rejoice as the band is about to enter the writing phase for a new record. I got to speak to CJ about what is next for the band, how they got through covid and much more.
GA: The last single the band produced was 2020’s Killing Season, is the band currently working on music and if so, what can you tell me about it?
CJ: We are working on it. We are currently in the thought stage. Some of the boys are going to write and record some rough takes after this tour. We are going to take a lot longer to do this next record than usual. We want to make sure it is our best work yet. There is a little bit of a change coming, I feel stylistically wise. I don’t know how long it’s going to take; 4 months… 6 months maybe. We are going to start after this tour.
GA: In the past, the band has delved into such topics as War and Politics and even environmental issues; can we expect an expansion on these themes in the future from the band?
CJ: Sure, we are open to those ideas, but to be honest I don’t really know. We have loose ideas, but we tend to write generally about things that are happening in the present. Just based off what happened to the world over the last two and a half years, there’s enough lyrical content there to do a few records. So, it will be a matter of us sitting down, and Andy, Will and I getting a pile of topics together and picking out the most crucial things that we feel are important to sing about, and start writing from there. Lyrics are kind of the last thing we work on. We like to get the music done first, then we get a vibe off each song and use that vibe to write lyrics. There are a few topics being thrown around, but we tend to keep shit secret as well because we don’t want to give too much away. We are about to write full time so it will move quickly, but from this conversation to full product we are still many months away.
GA: When writing new music what is your inspiration when coming up with new material?
CJ: I think it’s the world environment, be it political, social, environmental, the psychology of people’s thoughts and how things have happened over the last few years with everything. I tend to go into the recording process with a blank slate, and generally have no idea. Sometimes I will have a few ideas to begin with. It is kind of hard for me to write. We do our best work when it is crunch time, when I am together with Andy and Will. I think Andy has a few ideas, as far as topics. I have kids, a business, and a wife and family; so, I don’t spend much time thinking about writing until it’s time. The band will set a chunk of time aside from touring and home life, to get together and write a record. That’s when we do our best stuff, brainstorming ideas. You know as much as we do about what we are going to write about at this point.
GA: The band is based out of Australia, and this is the first time coming back to the US to tour since Covid 19 locked down travel across the globe. During that time how did the band stay busy?
CJ: We didn’t. We all have our own lives outside of the band. We all worked on our careers outside of music and just lived that life. Australia got locked down twice, both times were longer than four months. We each live in different states and cities like 600 miles away from each other, so we couldn’t really see each other anyway. I run a tattoo studio and have two kids, and a wife and big family. Andy manages a bunch of bands on a record label, so he is busy trying to gear up all the bands to get back out touring. Kevin is a Draftsman, designing mansions and apartment buildings. Jesse is working out of a friends Pub and bar. Sean owns a recording studio. So, we all had so much other shit to do outside of it. There was no end in sight for us to forecast things. We didn’t know how long it would be, given three months, six months, or years; so, we just lived our lives outside of music like we usually do.
GA: It must be hard to live life with that kind of uncertainty.
CJ: Yea, not just us but every entertainer and musician was in the same boat. We are one of the lucky bands where we all have careers outside of the band. We work our asses off, so we did have other things to fall back on, and to keep us busy. Once we could see that things were going back to what would be relatively normal, that’s when we were like, ok we can go do shit now. Let’s start booking tours and organizing, lets figure out what we are going to do to record. There was no point simmering on it for two and a half years, we would of went crazy. There were other jobs and careers that kept us busy during that time.
GA: As musicians sometimes, to supplement income members have secondary jobs to make ends meet. As well as other things in life to be engaged with. What are some other things you engage in when not doing music?
CJ: I have two kids which takes up a lot of my time. We have a big family, a family of nine in our house. I also play soccer three nights a week. I am at the tattoo studio five to six days out of the week. So, I’m fucking busy man. When I’m on tour it’s relaxing. I got to work an hour a day. I miss my kids like crazy, but I don’t have to watch them like a hawk or get woken up to getting kicked in the face by babies. Touring is quite easy, for me it’s less stressful than being at home with businesses and looking after kids, making sure they are safe and happy. Touring is a breeze these days.
GA: Sounds like it’s a vacation for you these days.
CJ: It’s cool to jump between the two lives. I get bored quickly, and get frustrated a lot, so once I’m over touring, I get to go back to dad life. Then once I get had my fill there, I get to go back out touring. So, it is kind of cool to jump between the two lives.
GA: When the band comes to the US is there any areas you enjoy visiting or hope to make a stop at?
CJ: We like New Orleans, there are some cool spots down there. We usually hit high end coffee shops, there’s one in Denver, Colorado, one in Portland, Oregon, and New York is always good for a few. We like America; Austin, Kansas, and Oklahoma bbq is great. We are at our friends’ house in Detroit currently. We met them on our first tour of America, and have stayed so close and such good friends with them. We got a day off from tour with After the Burial, so went to hang with our friends and just vibing outside with bbq and a few beers. It’s just chill. Its more so people we want to connect with, like our family here in Detroit.
GA: As a vocalist, what is your opinion on other vocalists in the scene? With the varying approaches and techniques that continue to advance is there anything that you could possibly see, or adapt in the future for your own use?
CJ: To be honest, I haven’t listened to metal in years. Its with playing it all the time, and touring (I get burnt out). It’s a good thing, because I can come up with new voices, just like I did two weeks ago in the studio. It feels organic. I made that voice through experimenting with myself, rather than going, I heard this dude and I want to do what he is doing. I’ve done that in the past, being influenced by different vocalists, being like: I like what this guy is doing so I am going to do my own version of what he is doing. There’s a lot of bands out there, like Lorna Shore for instance doing insane shit vocally. I’m not saying I can’t do that, but it’s not something I feel I need in my repertoire. It wouldn’t feel like a me thing, that is Will’s (vocal technique/sound), and Will has that down, and anyone that tries to replicate that, people will say that you are trying to be Will. He is fucking insane, and his voice is crazy. Alex Terrible of Slaughter to Prevail is fucking ridiculous as well. Those two dudes are just killing the game, they are so good, and there are a lot of great vocalists out there.
For me its like, with every record I do I try to bring 2 new voices to the album. Its not because I feel like I need to, it is more of a want thing. I don’t ever want to sound exactly like I did on the previous work. There will always be voices I bring to the recording stage. I did two new voices on a recording I just did a week ago in New York. I also did one live last night, and Andy after we walked off stage during a break in the set said, “Dude what the fuck did you just do there? That voice is fucking cool!” I wanted something crazy high that was like really depressing sounding, kind of like a depressed scream for help. I’ve been having a bit of trouble with my voice the last few days; I have a sinus infection from the bus. So, I have been trying to use different parts of my vocal cords that I don’t usually use for screams so I can stay away from that infected area, and I just produced this thing. When I was doing it, I was like this sounds sick. I walked off stage during the interlude for forty seconds and Andy walked up to me and said, “Dude whatever you just did there, it was so sick, can you fucking do it again?” I was like, “I think so” then ripped it in another part. Just this past week I came up with three voices, or tones, or projections, that I haven’t used before. I think when we do this next record, I will probably spend a couple hours with Will.
I name all my voices, so I have little nicknames for shit. Will and I can talk to each other and go, “we use the Georgie boy here, we use eastern euro here, we will use super highs here, and so on.” Will can tell me what he thinks will work best. So instead of having to do the voice I can say the codeword for what I mean. We use the codewords for these things like building blocks, like figuring out the parts to build a house before its even built. Its an easy and quick way for us to navigate how certain songs and sections will sound like.
GA: What is next for the band after this tour ends?
CJ: We are going to go home for a little bit of a break. I think we have an Australian tour coming up, but we plan on writing from the end of this tour all the way up to the end of the next tour. We will probably record from now until November. So, we have an Australian tour, then we are supporting Lamb of God in Europe in November, December. Our year is pretty much booked out and we are starting to plan out next year too.
GA: What kicked off the Gucci fund and is the band keeping it Gucci?
CJ: Well, Andy and I are into high end stuff, and I never wear my high-end stuff on tour because its extremely expensive. I don’t buy any expensive shit anymore because I have two kids and a mortgage. I can’t just drop 4 or 5k on a new wardrobe. It started out because I have a Gucci side bag, and its broken and old. I want to get a new side bag, and I’m like I need to get new stage shoes, the stage shoes I’m wearing now are like 1,400 dollars. I saw some stuff posted on Instagram and decided I want to go full Gucci for my stage stuff. I figured I’d crowd surf for tips, I’ve been doing it for a little bit. I think some people don’t understand what’s happening, so uh yea I don’t think my whole stage gear will go Gucci. I’d love to but that’s a lot of money man. Maybe we will piece it out. Get some touring in there save some money, make sure the family is good then Gucci it up. Maybe around next album touring cycle we can have it going. It’s been fun to watch people enjoying the joke. Then there are some people out there that are seriously like let’s make this happen.
GA: Anything else you’d like to say or add?
CJ: Thanks to all the fans on this run, tour has been great. It’s been fantastic the support from the fans and the turn outs. Specially to have this going on in America, because there are so many big shows coming around. I was a little concerned about the amount of people that would be able to afford to see all these shows, but this has been easily the best co-headline tour we’ve done in America. It has been fantastic, and we have been enjoying our time here.
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EIHWAR COME TO BALTIMORE TO BRING THE VIKING WAR TRANCE

IVE BEEN SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THE UPCOMING TOUR FOR EIHWAR. I FOUND THEM ON THE INTERNET AND THEY BLEW ME AWAY WITH THEIR VIKING/FOLK/PAGAN MUSIC MIXED WITH ELECTRONIC. EIHWAR WILL BE COMING TO THE RECHER IN TOWNSON MARYLAND ON AUGUST 30TH. EMPIRE EXTREME GOT TO ASK THE DUO A FEW QUESTIONS BEFORE THE SHOW.
ARE YOU EXCITED ABOUT DOING YOUR FIRST AMERICAN TOUR? ANY AMERICAN THINGS OR PLACES YOU WANT TO EXPLORE?
ASRUNN: For now, I have to admit I’m still completely stunned. I’m not excited or imagining it yet at all. Right now, I feel like I’m about to go to a country that only exists in TV shows, so I’m still kind of wading through disbelief.
Once I’m actually there, though, I’ll probably start talking way too fast and way too loud, and I’ll want to go way too everywhere.
HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN VIKING WAR TRANCE AS A GENRE OF MUSIC?
MARK: Viking War Trance is basically what happens when you mix Nordic folk influences, tribal rhythms, electronic music and something much more primitive and aggressive. We wanted music that makes you want to dance, fight and enter some kind of trance at the same time. So instead of trying to fit into an existing genre, we just called it Viking War Trance. And about the word “war”: it’s not a war against others, but a war against ourselves. Against our rigidity, our limiting beliefs, our fears. Victory is letting go.
WHAT CAN FANS EXPECT WHEN SEEING THE BAND LIVE?
MARK: Our concerts are much more physical than people sometimes expect from listening to the albums. We want people to dance, scream, jump, crowd surf and completely lose themselves for an hour. It’s somewhere between a concert, a rave and a pagan ritual, but with a lot of joy. “Joyful chaos” is the word that Asrunn often use.

WHAT WAS IT LIKE PLAYING HELLFEST AND WACKEN?
ASRUNN: It’s basically spending an entire hour on stage thinking, “Seriously, what the hell am I doing here? This makes absolutely no sense,” and then, the second it’s over, thinking, “Fuck, that was WAY TOO SHORT!”, hahahahaha!
In reality, it’s a mix of intense concentration and this explosion of joy inside when we manage to bring such a huge crowd into our madness with us. It’s as if, all of a sudden, we’re no longer men and women, but one human tribe, united by joy and raw energy.

HOW DO YOU FEEL THAT YOUR STYLE OF VIKING MUSIC AND IMAGE DIFFERS FROM OTHER VIKING AND FOLK METAL?
MARK: What sets us apart from folk metal is simply that we’re not metal. We don’t use distorted guitars or acoustic drums. As for pagan folk, I think the differences are pretty obvious too. Most pagan bands take a fairly ceremonial approach, resulting in atmospheric, ambient music. Some of them are even very serious. From our point of view, seriousness is a symptom of bad digestion. We prefer to fool around.
As for the peace you find in atmospheric ritual music, we don’t know much about it. Asrunn, our leader, is nothing like a priestess in a linen dress singing with butterflies in the forest. She’s living anger. Our music is joyful and brutal, primitive techno made to dance to until the end of the night.
The biggest difference is also, and perhaps above all, harmonic, in the musicological sense. With ancient instruments, it’s difficult to modulate frequently or to play every note in every octave. We use machines, and that gives us much more freedom to create melodies and chord progressions that evolve constantly and are far more pop-oriented than ancient instruments would normally allow.

DREAM TOUR: YOU CAN GO ON TOUR WITH ANY 2 OTHER BANDS, WHO DO YOU CHOOSE?
ASRUNN: MmmmdzgebhfugzFDBZueisfg that’s WAY too hard to choooooose HAAAAA! I’d say……….. NIN and… well, Sofia Isella, lately. She’s tooooooo good to be true.
MARK: The Prodigy and Peter Gabriel
FAVORITE GAME OF THRONES CHARACTER?
MARK: Don’t know, but I like the soundtrack.
ASRUNN: Bree Van De Kamp.
IF YOU COULD RESURRECT ONE HISTORIC VIKING WHO WOULD IT BE?
MARK: Honestly, my memories from that time aren’t clear enough for me to really know. But I was very fond of the monk Eadwig of Durham, and I’d be curious — and happy — to see him again.
ASRUNN: Lagertha, to prove to Mark that he’s wrong when he says she had bigger boobs than me.

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INTERVIEW WITH KURT DEIMER

EMPIRE EXTREME GOT TO INTERVIEW KURT DEIMER ABOUT THE NEW ALBUM “A GROG IS BORN” HIM WORKING WITH GEOFF TATE AND JOSH TODD AND BEING KILLED BY MICHAEL MEYERS AND HORROR MOVIES

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Inferious—Interview
by Josh Drespling
I was at Preserving Underground to cover Filth and Resistor. I was all set with my photo pass and cameras at the ready. And then this young band exploded onto the stage. No grand entrance, no intro music, no flashy lights—just a wall of noise from the first guitar chord and a guttural growl that seemed to come from somewhere below the floorboards. I was blown away. Thoroughly impressed.
This band was Inferious, out of Dayton, Ohio. If you look up the word “inferious,” most dictionaries will tell you it means something low-status, submissive, or fit for sacrifice. But this Ohio metalcore outfit Inferious has spent the last several years proving that definition couldn’t be more wrong. Tonight in the basement of a converted church, Inferious delivered raw, sweat-soaked fury to all who were smart enough to show up early.
Before their set was even half over, I made up my mind that I had to talk to them and let our readers know about this band. Here is how it went:



Empire: This was the first time I have ever seen you guys. I’ve heard your name before but never had the chance to listen. The show tonight was freaking awesome. I loved it from the first few notes. The vocals and the guitar tone just hit ya right in the chest.
Since I am a new fan, can you give me the nickel tour of how you came together and I understand you are from Dayton, Ohio.
Shaun O’Shaughnessy – Guitarist: I live in Dayton, and the original band members all formed in Dayton, but it was kind of a collage of multiple band folks. People from the southwest Ohio area. Gabe [McQueen – vocals] and I were there at the beginning, and then through some line-up changes, this is our current and most solid touring line-up so far with Cody and Kyle. They also are from the area and have been in several bands. So they were always in the same circles, at the same shows, talking to the same people. It all worked out one day.
Empire: Given that, it seems like there is a healthy music scene in Dayton. Are there any good clubs, any fields to play in?
Shaun: It’s hard to say Dayton, Ohio, specifically so much as just southwest Ohio because of the way that Dayton, Columbus, and Cincinnati form like a little triangle. You’re only an hour apart from each other. So we can get into that larger music scene pretty easily. So Dayton itself has venues, but the whole collective area has stuff. There’s some house venues, like Gnome House, there’s Bob’s, but then Cincinnati has Madison Live, and Design Collective [DSGN CLLCTV] was doing shows for a while, but I think they got in trouble.
Cody: Yeah, it some code stuff.
Empire: I think there are a couple decent places in Akron, and even across the border is Huntington, WV?
Shaun: Yeah, that area still does have sick stuff. It’s just farther away from our personal local scene. Cleveland is kind of separate from us too.
Cody: That’s not necessarily our scene, but there is such a good underground local scene from the Huntington / Athens / Charleston area. Shout to Feverwar.
Shaun: We were just at the Grog Shop [outside Cleveland].
Cody: We were at the New Foundry not too long ago.
Empire: Oh, yeah, like upstairs?
Shaun: No, it is Foundry’s new location.
Empire: I’ve not been there.
Shaun: It looks basically like the old one, but it’s new.

Empire: You mentioned the Grog Shop. Were you guys there with Filth and Resistor?
Shaun: Yeah, we’ve been on tour with Filth and Resistor. The first half of the tour had Two-Piece on it; we missed them, but now Mono’s [Monochromatic Black] on for the second half, and they’re homies.
Gabe and I toured with them in Inferious a couple years ago with band called AMTAE, and Monochromatic Black. So, those are long-time homies as well. So, we’ve known Tanya [Elizabeth (Beickert) – Vocals] and Eddie [DeCesare – Drums] for a long time, and Pierce [Akers – Guitar] is our new best friend as well.
Empire: So, it’s just like a big hang for you guys.
Shaun: Yeah, all the homies are back. We’ve toured with Filth before too; we were out with them on the Oceano tour, and then actually a year ago, I think like right now, like today a year ago, we toured with Filth also. So, it’s Filth and Oceano, and then Filth again.
So, it’s been fun to have a full circle of friend hangs, and every night’s been sick. The show turnouts have been amazing, and then just hanging out with all our friends has been amazing.
Empire: That’s part of what makes it fun. Whether you have 50 people or 1000, you have that camaraderie and shared experience.



Empire: So do you currently have an album out? Where do you guys stand with that?
Gabe: We have music out everywhere, on all music platforms: Apple Music, Spotify, Google Play, and YouTube Music. Shit, if you even got to rip that shit, YouTube to MP4, do it, man!
Shaun: We got your back. We got three full lengths and an EP. We are working on a new EP with a label we’re signed to that we’ll announce here soon, but that’s going to be really exciting stuff, and just stoked to be able to get that out soon.
Empire: Cool. So don’t say the label name, but your deal is in place, and then the new album in the fall, winter, spring?
Shaun: Yeah, the EP should be coming out sometime this year, if all the schedules align and everything, but that’s in the works.
Empire: Cool. Filth tour, what’s after that?
Shaun: Finishing up the EP. Record release cycle, and then hopefully touring in support of that. Whether it’s co-headlining with somebody or doing some more support stuff, we’re down for whatever. Hopefully we can fill up the rest of the year.
You know, touring is hard financially, so while we’re able to still make ends meet on the road, it’s hard to pay all the bills, so we’ve got to go home, stack our bread back up, and then be ready to go back out again.
Empire: I understand. Is this your first time in Pittsburgh?
Shaun: We’ve actually played Preserving. This is at least the fifth time.
We played the DIY room, we played this room, this orientation, we played this room when it was facing the other direction. AJ, the owner, has been good to us. He is a rad dude.
Empire: AJ is great.
Shaun: The record shop and merch store upstairs is sick, I just bought a shirt, a Never Ending Game shirt, because we have to do a laundry soon, and I bought a shirt to extend one more day to get through.

Empire: Anything you guys want to add, anything going on? Shameless plugs?
Shaun: This has been a kind of sick tour, because I think we’ve all got to see family members. Gabe’s dad dropped him off, so we got to see Gabe’s dad. We got to go get breakfast with my mom and some family, I saw my aunt. Cody’s mom let us stay at her crib, and we got to hang out with her and his family. Kyle’s family came out last night and hung out, and that was pretty sick, so it’s been a good time.
Empire: Kyle hasn’t said anything, so tell me about your family coming out and seeing the show.
Kyle: I mean, it was my sister’s first time seeing us live.
Empire: What did she have to say? I mean, I’m sure she knew the style.
Kyle: Oh, yeah, she’s conditioned to it.
Empire: She’s not like a Britney Spears fan at a hardcore show?
Kyle: No, no, she’s by far not a normie, but close to it.
Empire: Thank you, gentlemen. That’s all I have today. Appreciate it, and thanks for the show. It was great; loved it.
Shaun: See you next time.


Before that night at Preserving Underground, I’ll be honest: Inferious was just a name on a show flyer. Another opening band before the acts I actually came to see.
That’s the thing about this level of heavy music. The headliners get the lights, the longer set, and the crowd that’s already warmed up. But the openers? They get twenty-five minutes, a soundcheck that barely counts, and a room full of people who are mostly looking at their phones. Inferious didn’t just overcome that. They incinerated it.
What struck me most, sitting down with Shaun, Gabe, Cody, and Kyle after the show, was how unpretentious they were. No egos. No rock-star posturing. Just four guys from southwest Ohio who’ve been grinding in the same circles, playing the same basement venues, and slowly building something real. They talked about the small venues with the same reverence other bands reserve for stadiums. They shouted out Feverwar. They bought merch from the shop upstairs to make it through one more day on the road.
That’s the part you don’t see from the crowd. The financial grind. The van trouble. The “stack our bread back up” reality of modern touring. And yet, here they were—genuinely stoked to have seen family members at shows, genuinely grateful for AJ at Preserving keeping the doors open for underground bands, and genuinely excited about an upcoming EP they couldn’t even name the label for yet.
Inferious may have a name that suggests something low-status, something sacrificial. But after watching them level a converted church in New Kensington, and after listening to them talk about their scene with the easy confidence of people who have nothing to prove, I think the definition needs an update.
Check them out on all the streaming platforms. Catch them when they roll through your town on the next tour. And for the love of God, show up early.
You never know which opening band is going to blow your doors off.
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